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Reasons for insurance hikes - barney100

Posted a while ago on the big increase in my insurance. Guy on the radio from an insurance company said EVs repair costs, the price of parts, apparently some bumpers with all the electrics in some German cars can be £7K. The cost of specialist labour then parts from abroad being held up thereby increasing the length of hire car time all go to making the insurance rise. Oh for a simple car, as little gadgets as possible please serviceable on the drive as in years gone by.

Reasons for insurance hikes - daveyjp

No mention of costs associated with 'the system' where a £250 minor panel spray job can become £2500.

I had a claim last year, my car hit by a delivery wagon while it was parked. Agreement made between wagon operator and insurance for my local dealer to do the work, it was £2000 plus VAT and took a week, two weeks before Christmas,

Had I gone through my insurance it would have been 4 weeks as a minimum of me in a hire car, plus no doubt inflated repair costs as the other side was paying.

Reasons for insurance hikes - Andrew-T

No mention of costs associated with 'the system' where a £250 minor panel spray job can become £2500.

My local indy had a bodyshop until last summer - I had work done there not long before that. Then the bodywork man moved on, and Simon decided not to continue with body work, partly because of the rising cost of energy. Paint shops with ovens use quite a bit of it.

Reasons for insurance hikes - nick62

I've a friend who owns a body shop and gets all the gigs from the local BMW, Audi, Porsche dealerships, etc., (it's a nice set-up).

He said getting parts post Brexit is a nightmare and the prices have gone through the roof, (but obviously that's fake news right)?

He had one car in for months whilst waiting for parts, so that has a knock-on effect on costs of courtesy vehicles, storage, etc.

Edited by nick62 on 17/01/2024 at 13:11

Reasons for insurance hikes - Terry W

It seems that the insurance companies have been having a tough time and making little profit. Article below from FT which tends to report very objectively.

Motor insurers endure worst underwriting conditions in a decade (ft.com)

It may be the garages that are exploiting the system - insurance companies tend to appoint repairers on the basis of rate per hour. The longer a job takes the more the garage earn for the work and car hire.

The pandemic clearly caused supply chain problems. Additionally components frequently damaged - bumpers, front wings etc have become increasingly complex with electronics embedded. For many capital goods manufacturers (cars are an example), more money is made from the sale of spare parts than is made on the initial sale price.

Reasons for insurance hikes - Steveieb

It’s annoying that the cost of third party cover is not much less than fully comp, which is hard to understand.

I have always taken fully comp to cover windscreen replacement but turned down hire car cover.

But is there anything else that I can do to strip down the cover and cost on a low value car ?

Reasons for insurance hikes - Theophilus

But is there anything else that I can do to strip down the cover and cost on a low value car ?

1) Shop around - premiums vary enormously

2) Consider increasing the excess you are willing to accept

Reasons for insurance hikes - movilogo

cost of third party cover is not much less than fully comp, which is hard to understand.

It is mostly based on how likely you are going to hit another person/car. If you hit a pedestrian or a Ferrari that will cost your insurer quite a large sum of money.

Adding your own car on top of that is not that a big jump.

Reasons for insurance hikes - Engineer Andy

I've a friend who owns a body shop and gets all the gigs from the local BMW, Audi, Porsche dealerships, etc., (it's a nice set-up).

He said getting parts post Brexit is a nightmare and the prices have gone through the roof, (but obviously that's fake news right)?

He had one car in for months whilst waiting for parts, so that has a knock-on effect on costs of courtesy vehicles, storage, etc.

The problem with that argument was that prices (insurance) didn't go up significantly until well after both the original vote (2016) and actually leaving in 2020.

I'd say that whilst there was some impact for a while, the following have had far more of an impact:

1. Pandemic (lockdown) shutdowns for component and car manufacturers and logistics disruption;

2. Same caused by the various world conflicts on oil, gas and the cost of shipping;

3. Delayed impacts of legislation in the past and guessed impacts of future legislation on running costs (replacement parts) - environmental, safety and security;

4. Impact (growing by the day) of both poor car security (keyless entry) and theft by gangs of overseas criminals, especially high-end cars.

Also similar criminal gangs engaging in more 'cash-for-crash' crime, and I'd bet that with the impact of more 'dodgy people' out there, there'll be far more uninsured drivers on the road, and someone has to cover the cost of accidents with them.

5. Many people are buying more expensive and high-end cars (often on credit) than was the case 10-15 years ago, thought not always by choice.

The cost of insurance has risen everywhere in Western nations, not just limited to the UK or that much worse, if at all.