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Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - malct

My car is now 6,6 years old, Bought it from Renault retail group as a Pre Reg , So only paid £11,500 for it , Its a 1.5 Diesel with 41000 Miles on the clock

This has to be one of the cheapest cars that i have ever owned and i am planning on keeping it for another 6 years and more if possible

Since new, Its had new brake discs and pad and a new ball joint plus a set of tyre's and it gets a service every year

Looking at the future, Would it be recommended to have a garage to replace all parts that maybe starting to come to the end of there life like the exhaust, Suspension parts, Timing belt and other parts that may need replaced at some time or is it better to just wait until i get issues.

I think the timing belt is 5 years or 60,000 miles and a exhaust is any time after 3 years but that would be picked up during a MOT if any issues

I would imagine that there would be a big cost to this, But i am looking at trouble free motoring for the next 6 years and it was bad enough with a MOT fail due to the ball joint , so like i said , i am looking ahead

Thanks for any replies

Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - Andrew-T

Would it be recommended to have a garage to replace all parts that maybe starting to come to the end of there life like the exhaust, Suspension parts, Timing belt and other parts that may need replaced at some time or is it better to just wait until i get issues.

I think the timing belt is 5 years or 60,000 miles and a exhaust is any time after 3 years but that would be picked up during a MOT if any issues

To your first question - no. The annual MoT should give plenty of notice of parts needing replacement. The usual things are consumables like tyres and brake parts. A diesel will probably never need a new exhaust (mine hasn't in 15 years), but you should probably shorten the recommended oil and filter change interval, which makers stretch too far to help fleet buyers. Otherwise follow the maintenance schedule that came with the car - tho some on here would suggest forgetting about brake fluid :-)

Edited by Andrew-T on 17/06/2023 at 10:05

Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - SLO76
I’d relax a bit, these are generally quite cheap wee cars to run. I’d do the timing belt, tensioner and water pump now though as it is due and they are known to fail. Other than that just service it once a year (assuming you’re doing 10k or less P/A) and just replace parts as they fail rather than before.
Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - malct

Thank you both for your advice.

Agree regards the timing belt, I will need to shop around to see who can do it, But Renault will be very expensive.

I think Kwikfit do timing belts in certain depots, Might be worth getting a price but i doubt it will be cheap

Regards Suspension, I might get the car checked over before the next MOT because the front right had to be replaced in Jan 2023

Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - Andrew-T

I think Kwikfit do timing belts in certain depots, Might be worth getting a price but i doubt it will be cheap

If you go to K-F be prepared to resist any suggestions for additional work ! Use your preferred trusted indie, if you have one.

Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - malct

Regards Cost for Timing belt, I will check these out

www.arnoldclark.com/servicing/renault/cambelt-repl...t

Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - edlithgow

Rust prevention would make a lot more sense than pre-empting mechanical failures that may never happen.

The timing belt is an exception, assuming this is the standard rubber-band autodestruction design.

Ditto brake fluid change which is often neglected, and has trivial cost/effort compared to the damage not doing it can cause.

Which reminds me I ought to change mine again if it passes the next inspection

Edited by edlithgow on 17/06/2023 at 14:38

Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - sammy1

I personally would not trust KF to do a major job on a cambelt especially with a car you seem to care about, you do not know who they will put on the job. I would rather give the job to someone who is doing them all the time even if it a one off to the Renault dealer. Ditto to advice above about changing parts prematurely. The MOT can be an excellent guide but wait for a fail or two advisories on a worn part. You can spend forever on a car and the garage will gladly gobble up your cash

Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - catsdad

I thought KF employed cambelt guys to cover several branches? Maybe still not most people here’s first choice.

As for other preventative maintenance I would suggest a wheels off brake service at the next service. A check and replacement if necessary of suspension bushes, shocks etc might be worthwhile. However I would use my trusted indie to give me warning anyway before they needed urgent attention. You could soon run up a big bill if you overdo the precautionary work.

I speak from experience, spending £700 on my Civic brakes in 2019. It had passed the MoT on effectiveness but the dealer service mechanic noted wear beyond Honda spec. As I hoped it was a keeper I thought it was worth doing. Within a few months it developed a thirst for oil and I traded it in.

Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - Andrew-T

I personally would not trust KF to do a major job on a cambelt especially with a car you seem to care about, you do not know who they will put on the job.

I suggest that unless you know and trust a smallish long-established place, you would probably not know who did the job almost anywhere ?

Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - edlithgow

I personally would not trust KF to do a major job on a cambelt especially with a car you seem to care about, you do not know who they will put on the job.

I suggest that unless you know and trust a smallish long-established place, you would probably not know who did the job almost anywhere ?

I know who is about to do mine, though that isn't especially reassuring, since its the same geezer who recently lit a charcoal fire on top of my engine block..

Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - Metropolis.
With a view to keeping it a while longer, I would not be worried about replacing mechanical parts like the exhaust early, however I would have:

Timing belt done
EVERY fluid changed together with any filters and give the magnets a clean of any swarph. So gearbox oil, engine oil and coolant, differential fluid, brake fluid. Power steering fluid (unless it’s not hydraulic). Give the AC a service too (not just a regas). I would also check if it has any grease points and do those, if it has any.

Good on you for looking after your vehicle!
Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - Andrew-T

Gearbox oil ? Differential fluid ? I am just thinking of having the gearbox oil in my 205 changed after 30 years. The manuals don't suggest this is necessary - unless there is a leak somewhere of course.

Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - gordonbennet
Agree with the others.

Change cambelt full kit incl water pump even if not driven my cambelt, coolant, gearbox oil...gearchanges often noticeably better after oil change.

Get the brakes serviced properly, which means stripping the pads out and making sure the calipers are all good free moving and lubed correctly, change the fluid, even if you don't change the fluid crack the bleed nipples and retighten whilst there.

Fuel filter should be part of regular servicing, but as above i'd not go beyond 6k miles personally (DIY easy and cheap as chips).

Exhaust shouldn't rust from inside but inspect it and if there's rust forming outside typically at seams give it a good wire brushing and paint it with zinc.

Keep the undersides clean and inspect and treat early any signs of rust.
Suspension parts etc change as and when needed.

Nice to hear of another poster who doesn't think a car is past its best at 3 years and needs replacing, no reason you shouldn't still be running this bargain motor in another 12 18 or 24 years if you continue to look after it, as a bonus doing so will annoy people like the current mayor of london and the doom goblin.
Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - Bolt

as a bonus doing so will annoy people like the current mayor of london and the doom goblin.

The more the better imo, I have noticed and spoken to several people local to me that have decided to spend money on bringing there car up to scratch rather than spend it on a newer car, apart from its hard to find good cars now....better the devil you know and all that :)

Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - gordonbennet

as a bonus doing so will annoy people like the current mayor of london and the doom goblin.

The more the better imo, I have noticed and spoken to several people local to me that have decided to spend money on bringing there car up to scratch rather than spend it on a newer car, apart from its hard to find good cars now....better the devil you know and all that :)

Indeed, needed some gaskets from Toyota recently for the clean out of the EGR on my Diesel, had a look around whilst there and was shocked at the prices...but it spurred me into getting on with this years rustproofing. Lady i know with a nice Mondeo was looking along with her husband at upgrading to the later model but baulking at the high cost to change, i asked her what was wrong with the current one (devil you know etc), mainly wheels llok scabby paint not as good as it once was that sort of thing, i suggested giving the present one a birthday, full pro refurb of the wheels and let a detailer have the car for a day to bring back to its best, that'll be £1000ish which is less than half the profit alone the dealer would be making, they hadn't thought of that, be interesting when i see her next if they've taken any action on that.
Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - edlithgow
, change the fluid, even if you don't change the fluid crack the bleed nipples and retighten whilst there.

Then change the fluid anyway, because the fluid should be changed.

You get quite a lot of "Ive never changed the fluid since WW1 and I've never had an issue" jive on't nyet.

This proves nothing except that you can, perhaps, get away with not changing the fluid, since:

(a) You can run a brake system filled with pure water and it'll work fine until it corrodes terminally or brake heating causes it to boil.

(b) These people have perhaps not kept an individual car long enough to show a problem.

(c) If they have, incidental brake fluid changes due to replacement of brake components may have headed off the problem.

(d) Some of them may live in Arizona

I used to rely on point (c) until a total boiling brake fluid brake failure and subsequent stripping here in humid Taiwan convinced me otherwise.

Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - blindspot

years back had 205 gld and the gearbox oil change was recommended at i think 60k. after changing mine the gears felt lovely and smooth

Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - John F

For long term ownership I think the most important thing is to develop a good relationship with a competent trustworthy indy to do the MoTs which comprise the major part of a 'service'. If cared for, very few parts should need replacement during the, say, fifteen year/150,000 mile life of a well made car. (Our Focus lasted 21yrs and 160,000 miles, with original suspension, exhaust......and, ahem, cambelt). UK roads are mostly tarmac and often wet, so not dusty. Although garages like to change them, I just clean air and pollen filters with a stiff paint brush every 20,000 miles or so.

Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - Andrew-T

For long term ownership I think the most important thing is to develop a good relationship with a competent trustworthy indy to do the MoTs which comprise the major part of a 'service'.

John, I know this is the way you like to manage your cars, but a MoT test does not (cannot) include any servicing, and a standard service doesn't include a MoT test. I agree that the two sensibly go together, and any simple faults found in the test can probably be added to the regular service if the garage has the time. But it may mislead some to suggest that service and MoT test come together.

Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - galileo

For long term ownership I think the most important thing is to develop a good relationship with a competent trustworthy indy to do the MoTs which comprise the major part of a 'service'.

John, I know this is the way you like to manage your cars, but a MoT test does not (cannot) include any servicing, and a standard service doesn't include a MoT test. I agree that the two sensibly go together, and any simple faults found in the test can probably be added to the regular service if the garage has the time. But it may mislead some to suggest that service and MoT test come together.

My local trusted independent throws an MOT in free when he does a service. Not an unusual practice around here.

Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - edlithgow

To slightly misquote The Treasure of The Sierra Madre

I don' need no steeengkeeng MOT

Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - malct

Thank you all for the feedback and nice comments on maintaining the car for the future.

Over the last 15 years, I have only bought 3 cars, The first was a Renault Megane and it was due a cam belt change , It was low mileage but 6 years old and i did the foolish thing of buying the VW Polo which i didn't like , Luckily i got a good deal and sold it back to the retailer after 18 months with a loss of £3000 but then bought this Clio and a very cheap price that i am still driving , So a big lesson learnt with the megane , I should have just gone for the cam belt change instead of a impulse buy on the polo which looked nice on the outside but felt like i was in a sardine tin on the inside and i wasn't getting anywhere near the MPG that i was told by the salesmen.

So this time i am going to spend the money on the clio because in my opinion is a great car with 58.2 MPG , Only issue , We only do 7000 a year , But we do add the DPF fluid a couple of times a year and Red x .and they say that you should not have a diesel if you do low mileage

Anyways , Great reading your feedback and will sort out a cam belt change

Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - Andrew-T

<< My local trusted independent throws an MOT in free when he does a service. Not an unusual practice around here. >>

That's fine, but it only applies at a MoT anniversary ? Or is that the only time any 'servicing' gets done ? Or does the anniversary move around ? Does the car get a MoT with every 'service' ?

Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - malct

Just got the car booked in to a independent with the price between £400 and £510 depending on finding any issues but The lady i spoke to was honest , She states the higher price first , But if it takes the recommended time of 5 hours, Then the price will be £400 in total

Lookers wanted £1000 for belt and water pump fitted .

Just to update this , Somewhere more local is £307 all in. So booked that one instead

Edited by malct on 19/06/2023 at 16:06

Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - gordonbennet
Suggest you double check what brand of cambelt kit is involved given how cheap the new quote is and whether that is a full kit including water pump if required...also i'd get the auxilliary drive belt changed at the same time, 99% certain it will need to come off for cambelt access.

Gates is a well regarded aftermarket belt kit manufacturer.
Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - malct

I have just checked and he is using a gates kit

Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - bathtub tom

I once got the (correct) Gates replacement cambelt for a Perkins diesel in a Maestro - it was too slack. With the tensioner at the full extent of its movement, on the second of its two fixings I just couldn't get sufficient tension on the belt. I got another from BL dealer which was a visibly thicker belt that did the job.

Renault Clio - Maintenance on a 6 year old car - gordonbennet

Never noticed size difference in belts, but once changed a clutch cable on a Renault 21, someone had previously fitted one presumably bought from an accessory shop which was about half the diameter cable of the OE, wasn't much heavier duty than a bicycle brake cable and about as much use.