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Genesis - movilogo

Did anyone see any Genesis cars in flesh? I didn't know that Hyundai Genesis have entered UK market.

The cars look stunning - both interior and exterior.

The fuel economy is bit poor though.

Genesis - badbusdriver

I haven't seen any in the flesh, but I was aware that they were now on sale in the UK.

Genesis - groaver

I see their website has some for sale built 12 months ago but for sale as new?:

www.genesis.com/uk/en/models/g70.html

Genesis - mcb100
Yes, I’ve driven the GV60, GV70, GV80 and Electrified GV70.
My preference is always for EV, and I’m happy to report that they drive beautifully. The Boost button in the EGV70 and GV60 Sport Plus is spectacularly addictive, giving 10 seconds of 490PS.
Interiors are well built with decent quality of materials, with a responsive touch screen.
Highway Drive Assist will carry out lane changes on the motorway.
Very impressive overall.
Genesis - Engineer Andy
Yes, I’ve driven the GV60, GV70, GV80 and Electrified GV70. My preference is always for EV, and I’m happy to report that they drive beautifully. The Boost button in the EGV70 and GV60 Sport Plus is spectacularly addictive, giving 10 seconds of 490PS. Interiors are well built with decent quality of materials, with a responsive touch screen. Highway Drive Assist will carry out lane changes on the motorway. Very impressive overall.

Is it me or does the GV70 (non-electrified of shooting brake versions) have more than a passing resemblence to its sister company KIA's Stinger? Similar with the GV60 to the Veloster.

Not keen on the front grille and lights, but other than that, the GV70 is a fine looking car, inside and out.

Can it jump over trucks or drive at 300mph in Sport Plus 'boost' mode? ;-)

Genesis - mcb100
I’ve not driven the G70 or G80 (a V in the name means it’s an SUV).
Regarding 300mph, I’d suspect its ability to move air molecules out of the way would be its ultimate limiting factor. After 10 seconds, though, the horizon is a lot closer than it was 10 seconds previously.
No idea whether it’ll jump trucks, but given enough velocity and a ramp I wouldn’t rule it out. Not tried it because I quite enjoy working for them…
Genesis - Engineer Andy
I’ve not driven the G70 or G80 (a V in the name means it’s an SUV). Regarding 300mph, I’d suspect its ability to move air molecules out of the way would be its ultimate limiting factor. After 10 seconds, though, the horizon is a lot closer than it was 10 seconds previously. No idea whether it’ll jump trucks, but given enough velocity and a ramp I wouldn’t rule it out. Not tried it because I quite enjoy working for them…

Just a bit of fun...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_qiVBy0B2Y

Genesis - Bilboman

"I can feel it coming in the air tonight, oh lord.
And I've been waiting for this moment, for all my life, oh lord"

Genesis - Engineer Andy

"I can feel it coming in the air tonight, oh lord.
And I've been waiting for this moment, for all my life, oh lord"

Originally I didn't realise they were just posh Hyundais...

'Brand of Confusion' perhaps? :-)

PS. Not to rain on your parade, but 'In the Air Tonight' was a solo effort from Phil, not Genesis. ;-)

youtu.be/YkADj0TPrJA

youtu.be/JxT2G2HiFmE

Edited by Engineer Andy on 23/01/2023 at 14:23

Genesis - Bilboman

PS. Not to rain on your parade, but 'In the Air Tonight' was a solo effort from Phil, not Genesis. ;-)

Don't take it at Face Value - I did my level best to squeeze an actual Genesis track or album into the debate but I Missed Again.

Genesis - Engineer Andy

PS. Not to rain on your parade, but 'In the Air Tonight' was a solo effort from Phil, not Genesis. ;-)

Don't take it at Face Value - I did my level best to squeeze an actual Genesis track or album into the debate but I Missed Again.

((chuckle))

Only Brits would change the subject of a Korean luxury car thread to a 1970s/80s alt rock band meme and pun fest. Reminds me of the England football team doing much the same at World Cups 30-40 years ago when interviewed on the tele.

I should really get my dinner out to defrost - Chicken Tonight (Tonight, Tonight)...

(even I thought that was bad). Sorry.

Genesis - Metropolis.
I have been hankering after the first gen G90 with a Hyundai 5.0 v8 petrol, but I think it will be forbidden fruit. I think this brand is almost a repeat of the Lexus phenomenon back in the early 90s. Hope they survive, good quality products.
Genesis - Metropolis.
youtu.be/cu9iRQRljsc
Genesis - Lee Power

I saw one the other week, no idea which model it was due to being on the opposite carriageway but the reason I remembered it was it was in the same colour as the review car below.

Here's an interesting GV 60 Performance review from the USA

youtu.be/kXmx_5j9p7E

Genesis - gordonbennet

A few years ago whilst browsing ebay motors USA i came across Genesis for the first time.

Ebay motors usa was a whole lot different to here, dozens of high quality pictures, but not the usual rubbish useless pics typically found here, high quality pics from all angles of the important parts, ie the undersides suspension engine compartment etc. The build quality was impressive, large V8 engine of course.

On a less pricey scale i was still driving transporters when the Kia Ceed was launched here, probably around 2007, i saw these close up obviously from underneath and it was obvious from that moment that Kia/Hyuindai had upped their game many fold, i'd been delivering rental cars like Lantra/Accent/Mentor/Sportage 1 for some years and despite not being to everyone tatse they had that Japanese like no nonsense reliable useful feel about them, the Ceed and its Hyundai equivalent with big sisters Magentis/Sonata was when the bar was raised suddenly....had either of the last 2 been available in estate cars from one of them would still be on our driveway.

Edited by gordonbennet on 22/01/2023 at 17:01

Genesis - Adampr

I went to look at a Genesis recently. I got in and noticed there were only two pedals even though it was supposed to be manual. I called the salesman over and asked what was going on. After a little bit, he turned to me and said............"it seems to have an invisible clutch"

Genesis - mcb100
Looks like a bit of a breakdown in comms somewhere as the ICE’s are all 8 speed autos and the EV’s are, well, EV’s.
Genesis - Adampr
Looks like a bit of a breakdown in comms somewhere as the ICE’s are all 8 speed autos and the EV’s are, well, EV’s.

Yes, it was like the land of confusion in there. I tried one of the EVs too, but once I'd switched it off I couldn't turn it on again.

Genesis - mcb100
Where was this? They don’t have dealerships, so it will have been event staff.
Genesis - badbusdriver
Looks like a bit of a breakdown in comms somewhere as the ICE’s are all 8 speed autos and the EV’s are, well, EV’s.

Where was this? They don’t have dealerships, so it will have been event staff.

Genesis as in the band,

"invisible clutch" = "Invisible Touch", which was one of theirs, "Land Of Confusion" too.

;-)

Genesis - Adampr
Looks like a bit of a breakdown in comms somewhere as the ICE’s are all 8 speed autos and the EV’s are, well, EV’s.

Where was this? They don’t have dealerships, so it will have been event staff.

Genesis as in the band,

"invisible clutch" = "Invisible Touch", which was one of theirs, "Land Of Confusion" too.

;-)

Don't forget "turn it on again". I'm glad you've shown up; having to explain your own jokes is never fun

Genesis - mcb100
Ah, OK. Fair enough. Genesis were a bit too prog for me.
Genesis - Falkirk Bairn

Hyundai's Lexus?

or Nissan's Infiniti / Mazda's Xedos!!!!!

We will just need to wait for a time on that question.

Genesis - badbusdriver
Looks like a bit of a breakdown in comms somewhere as the ICE’s are all 8 speed autos and the EV’s are, well, EV’s.

Where was this? They don’t have dealerships, so it will have been event staff.

Genesis as in the band,

"invisible clutch" = "Invisible Touch", which was one of theirs, "Land Of Confusion" too.

;-)

Don't forget "turn it on again". I'm glad you've shown up; having to explain your own jokes is never fun

I was actually half way through a post of my own querying the possibility of a manual gearbox when the penny dropped..............!

Genesis - Engineer Andy

I went to look at a Genesis recently. I got in and noticed there were only two pedals even though it was supposed to be manual. I called the salesman over and asked what was going on. After a little bit, he turned to me and said............"it seems to have an invisible clutch"

Nice pun!

Genesis - movilogo

I had a test drive on Genesis GV70. It was a Sport trim with 2.5 L petrol engine. On the positive sides, the car looks fantastic, the driver's seat has loads of adjustment. Driving dynamics felt good too. The adaptive cruise control worked beautifully.

But that's where good things ended.

The engine was extremely thirsty. In comfort/eco model in my 1 hour of test drive I achieved 23 MPG only! When I briefly used Sport mode, it went down to 15-16 MPG level.

While front passengers have plenty of spaces, the rear passengers were not so lucky. For comparison, Kia Niro has more more space at rear, inspite of being a smaller car. This is due to longitudinal engine placed towards the middle of the car, which required an elongated bonnet - hence less space in passenger compartment. The boot was also on small side than what I expected.

There is a diesel engine which has rated fuel economy of 36 MPG. The Electric GV70 costs around £70k.

The car didn't even come with front parking sensors. Adding them means having to upgrade to innovation pack at cost of £4000! I find it nonsensical that a claimed luxury car does not even come with front parking sensors - especially when long bonnet makes tight space maneuvering a challenge! The demo car had faulty Auto Hold switch.

The base Premium trim, does not come with real leather seats. If you get the base trim with solid paint and faux leather seat with diesel engine it just under £40k, thus avoiding luxury car tax. But if you add any nice things (which you have to add anyway for a decent experience) the price creeps up to £50k+ range.

Genesis, being new to UK, had no history. So it is difficult to figure out what the depreciation would be. Under £40k, it is probably worth a plunge even with terrible fuel economy. But at circa £55k I don't see how much value it offers compared to other cars.

The price is not negotiable at all. What you see in website is what you pay.

I don't know whether this DTC (Direct To Consumer) model is good for the consumers. Yes, you deal with manufacturers directly but traditional dealers do negotiate on price to get your business. Also, if you don't like dealer A you can go to dealer B. But in DTC model you have no such option.

In short, my verdict is that GV70 (or Genesis) is right car for the wrong market. In USA where fuel is lot cheaper, it is good value for money but in UK/Europe, not necessarily.

As much as Genesis wants to compare itself with German luxury brands, I think people would see them as high end Hyundai/Kia. But then for Kia/Hyundai you can get lot more bangs for your bucks. So its market placement is bit odd.

Genesis includes 5-yr servicing in price. They also promise to collect and return cars in flatbed trucks. I think this is not a sustainable business model in longer term. In fact, they also accepted this and said they are trying to set up local "studios" (Genesis term for dealership) for this as currently they have only one workshop in UK (at Corby).

I wish them success and I may consider buy Genesis used in future when price becomes more reasonable but at this moment it is like investing in a startup. Without know how much these cars going to depreciate in future, it is hard to part with cash at the moment.

Genesis - Engineer Andy

Indeed - makes that have 'separated' the sporty and/or plush upper specs modesl into their own brand haven't done well afterwards, at least in the UK - DS from Citroen, Seat's Cupra, FIAT's Abarth to name a few.

I'd say (even with the Pandemic etc factor removed) none have been a success or at least being on par with when they were just top trim / sporty models. Shame, as a good few used to be associated with high class vehicles.