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Sat 4 Jul 2020 15:56
Suburu Self Charging SUV - Self Charging SUV cars in UK - Harley12

What are the UK Car manufacturers that offer Self charging SUV vehicles either in petrol or Diesel format? Not plug in types.

Edited by Harley12 on 04/07/2020 at 15:56

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Sat 4 Jul 2020 16:18
Suburu Self Charging SUV - Self Charging SUV cars in UK - thunderbird

Toyota Corolla is the only car I can think of but its not an SUV.

Well its made at Burnaston but its not a UK manufacturer as such, they are Japanese of course.

So I suppose the real answer is none.

Edited by thunderbird on 04/07/2020 at 16:19

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Sat 4 Jul 2020 19:09
Suburu Self Charging SUV - Self Charging SUV cars in UK - mcb100
Define UK manufacturers first of all. British owned manufacturers of cars, or merely cars manufactured in Britain?
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Sun 5 Jul 2020 18:14
Suburu Self Charging SUV - Self Charging SUV cars in UK - Sofa Spud

The term 'self-charging' is a misleading marketing term. It's basically means a hybrid vehicle has its batteries charged by regenerative braking, but that only recovers a small proportion the vehicle's kinetic energy - maybe 15% to 20%. Vehicles of this type are only capable of doing a few miles in electric mode.

Plug-in hybrids normally have bigger batteries and so they have greater range on electric power. And plug-in hybrids also have regenerative braking, so they could be termed 'self-charging' as well. Indeed the same is true of pure electric cars.

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Sun 5 Jul 2020 22:46
Suburu Self Charging SUV - Self Charging SUV cars in UK - bathtub tom

The term 'self-charging' is a misleading marketing term. It's basically means a hybrid vehicle has its batteries charged by regenerative braking

I understand it to mean the the battery's re-charged by the engine (in Toyota speak).

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Sun 5 Jul 2020 23:00
Suburu Self Charging SUV - Self Charging SUV cars in UK - mcb100
The Advertising Standards Authority disagree that it’s misleading, complaints about the use of the phrase ‘self charging hybrid’ weren’t upheld.
It’s an easy differentiator that will distinguish a car that can be plugged in from one that can’t (or doesn’t need to be).

Edited by mcb100 on 05/07/2020 at 23:01

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Mon 6 Jul 2020 16:59
Suburu Self Charging SUV - Self Charging SUV cars in UK - Firmbutfair

You could take a look at the new Honda Jazz Hybrid eHEV which has two electric motors to supplement a 1.5 litre petrol engine. It appears to offer very promising fuel economy combined with a surprising amount of room inside with plenty of headroom - not unlike an SUV. You could also check out the Honda CR-V Hybrid eHEV, which is an SUV. Honda used to make the Jazz and the CR-V at its Swindon factory but this could change any time as manufacturers seek cost savings and rationalisation across world markets.

Edited by Firmbutfair on 06/07/2020 at 17:00

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Mon 6 Jul 2020 17:02
Suburu Self Charging SUV - Self Charging SUV cars in UK - Mike H

Honda used to make the Jazz and the CR-V at its Swindon factory but this could change any time as manufacturers seek cost savings and rationalisation across world markets.

The CR-V hasn't been made at Swindon since the Mk5 was introduced in 2019.

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Tue 7 Jul 2020 08:20
Suburu Self Charging SUV - Self Charging SUV cars in UK - Sofa Spud

All modern electrically driven cars, whether hybrid or full electric, are 'self-charging' as they all have regenerative braking. The phrase 'self charging' is misleading because it implies that the car is using some sort of clever free energy device akin to perpetual motion, which it's not. It's just using the car's kinetic energy to recharge the battery when the car is slowing or going down a hill. A self-charging hybrid isn't going to charge its batteries while it's parked in the garage overnight, after all. I suppose it could be argued that regenerative braking is 'free energy', but then you've paid for the petrol or diesel that enabled your car to build up kinetic energy in the first place.

It's a bit like how the motoring press talks about 'automated gearboxes' when describing synchromesh type gearboxes that work automatically, to distinguish them from 'automatic gearboxes' which have planetary gears and torque converters. To me, if the gears are capable of changing automatically, then it's an automatic gearbox, regardless of the mechanical design!

Edited by Sofa Spud on 07/07/2020 at 08:26

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Tue 7 Jul 2020 08:28
Suburu Self Charging SUV - Self Charging SUV cars in UK - RT

All modern electrically driven cars, whether hybrid or full electric, are 'self-charging' as they all have regenerative braking. The phrase 'self charging' is misleading because it implies that the car is using some sort of clever free energy source akin to perpetual motion, which it's not. It's just using the car's kinetic energy to recharge the battery when the car is slowing or going down a hill. A self-charging hybrid isn't going to charge its batteries while it's parked in the garage overnight, after all.

It's a bit like how the motoring press talks about 'automated gearboxes' when describing synchromesh type gearboxes that work automatically, to distinguish them from 'automatic gearboxes' which have planetary gears and torque converters. To me, if the gears are capable of changing automatically, then it's an automatic gearbox, regardless of the mechanical design!

Not only are all electrified cars routinely "self-charging" by virtue of their regenerative braking but modern conventional petrol/diesel are optimised to use off-throttle over-run momentum to recharge the electrical system.

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Mon 13 Jul 2020 13:31
Suburu Self Charging SUV - Self Charging SUV cars in UK - Firmbutfair

Not only are all electrified cars routinely "self-charging" by virtue of their regenerative braking but modern conventional petrol/diesel are optimised to use off-throttle over-run momentum to recharge the electrical system.

Re the comment, above, made by RT, this is indeed true. Many modern ICE engines employ quite sophisticated alternator management systems (AMS), which once the battery is sufficiently replenished by the alternator (e.g. after a cold morning start) will 'settle' such that when cruising at a steady speed, accelerating, or hill climbing, the battery volts will 'settle' happily at around 12.5 volts, with little or no current being drawn from the alternator, to save fuel. However since the ignition system and other systems constantly draw on the battery, the AMS will periodically activate to give the battery a booster charge when the brakes are applied and when travelling down hill. The AMS intelligently 'adapts' throughout each journey with the objective of saving fuel by operating the alternator charging system to optimise battery charge, typically keeping the battery charge between half and three quarters fully charged from week to week, without any need for periodic external charging to top it up.

Edited by Firmbutfair on 13/07/2020 at 13:36

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