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Another which car thread! - johnnyrev
My brother is in need of a new car. He currently drives an ancient Fabia which has needed various bits replacing of late after it failed its MOT and broke down over the summer. My Mum is very kindly going to offer to buy him a new one, but doesn’t want to spend more than £6k plus the Fabia as p/x.

He only needs a small petrol hatchback. He doesn’t use a car during the week for work, only at weekends, and doesn’t carry passengers or huge loads. I’ve suggested a new Sandero (I’m biased with my Logan!), but other, more knowledgeable folk than me might have better ideas, or might recommend something a couple of years old instead?

Any thoughts?
Another which car thread! - BMW Enthusiast

Kia Rio or smaller Picanto or else a Hyundai i20 or smaller i10. Good warranty and decent reliability.

Another which car thread! - oldroverboy.

suzuki celerio.

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Edited by oldroverboy. on 04/09/2018 at 19:32

Another which car thread! - SLO76
£6k is plenty for a good Japanese superminis like the Suzuki Swift 1.2, Mazda 2 1.3, Honda Jazz or Toyota Yaris 1.33 all of which will provide a decade or more of reliable motoring if looked after. The Ford Fiesta with the 1.25 or 1.4 Yamaha designed zetec-se motor is good news too.
Another which car thread! - KJP 123

Isn’t the Sandero pretty basic? Once you spec it up to what most small cars come with, apart from entry level models, its value for money drops. Not sure that depreciation is that bad but always worse with a new car.

I knew someone in France that bought a Logan. Speced it up and later thought that a s/h Renault or Citroen estate for the same money might have been a better choice.

This was before the long warranties were offered but I would seriously look at recent s/h cars with manufactures warranty remaining

Another which car thread! - SLO76
Or for total pain free motoring a 2014/15 Kia Rio with 3/4yrs manufacturers warranty left assuming it has a full dealer history. Don’t accept any salesman telling you the warranty is still valid if it doesn’t though as it simply isn’t the case. These are perfectly decent little cars and far better built and much more refined than the cheaply made but still very likeable Dacia. I’d personally go used and better quality but I get the appeal of a new Dacia especially the capacious Logan.

Edited by SLO76 on 04/09/2018 at 21:44

Another which car thread! - FoxyJukebox

Excellent point re guarantee being invalid if maintenance not carried out by dealership(s)--how can you check this?....I assume you can ask the salesman to check the on line Kia service history etc--and if it ain't there--the car is "suspicious"?

Another which car thread! - nellyjak

In cases like this I will always stay with my default position..

Toyota Yaris.

Another which car thread! - expat

Excellent point re guarantee being invalid if maintenance not carried out by dealership(s)--how can you check this?....I assume you can ask the salesman to check the on line Kia service history etc--and if it ain't there--the car is "suspicious"?

I wouldn't trust anything from the salesman. Some might be honest but some may not. Perhaps it is possible to check direct with the manufacturer yourself?

Another which car thread! - skidpan

I assume you can ask the salesman to check the on line Kia service history etc

Not on a Kia. There is no central computerised service records. The dealer keeps their own (or should do). That is why Kia require you to keep a fully stamped book and all your receipts to ensure your warranty is intact. No receipts, no warranty.

I asked our dealer what would happen if we were in the north of Scotland, had no service records with us and needed warranty work. Simple he said, get him to ring us for confirmation services are up to date. That is fine if you know who did the service and its a Kia dealer. If its an idy I would suggest its pointless.

But that also applies to any brand that has been serviced outside the official network, indies cannot update or access central records.

So the rule is simple. If you want to buy a 3 year olf Kia with 4 years warranty only buy form an official Kia dealer and insist on seeing the paperwork. No paperwork walk away.

Never believe a salesman, remember the rules

1 all salesmen are liars

2 all salesmen are liars

3 refer to rules 1 and 2

Kia do have a central computerised record for recalls and campaign updates, why they cannotr add services to that is beyond me.

Another which car thread! - SLO76
“So the rule is simple. If you want to buy a 3 year olf Kia with 4 years warranty only buy form an official Kia dealer and insist on seeing the paperwork. No paperwork walk away.”

Absolutely agree. Approved used stock is the best way to buy used cars but you still need to verify the service record. If the car is at a non-franchise dealer but has a full Kia history then make sure they don’t service it and that it’s cheap enough to factor in a dealer service if it’s shortly required. Ignore any attempts to tell you the warranty is still valid, I’ve had this from almost every salesman when viewing cars both for myself and on behalf of customers. They will tell you anything to get a deal on paper.