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Vauxhall Zafira B 1.6 (55 plate) - Vauxhall Zafira warm start problem. - Micky Myers

I’m still struggling to diagnose a warm starting problem on my Vauxhall Zafira Life 1.6 petrol (2006). HJ suggested a fuel evaporation problem. My mechanic thought it was the starter motor, which he checked and refitted. The lack of diagnostic codes gives no pointers to the problem, but the warmer weather has occasionally made even the second start more troublesome. The cold start is strong and no problems, the first warm start is usually just a click. The second warm start (especially now we have some sunshine!) sometimes suggests a fuel mixture issue. I’ve tried removing the air filter to ensure good air flow, run a diagnostic to see what the sensors think is the current state of affairs. But no pointers.

I think the clue is somewhere in the fact that a cold start is strong but the warm start is weak. It’s almost as though the car wants to use a fuel mixture unsuitable for starting because it thinks it’s still running at a steady 60mph. I think the EMU is getting stuck in some way. Warm starting issues on the whole generally seem to be ‘complete’ none starting eventually. Do I just need to wait? I’m surprised I haven’t found more pointers with this being such a common engine across a range of Zafira and Astra models.

UPDATE - Forgot to mention car runs and idles well. mpg is fine. Just had an idea about trying to bumpstart the car from warm and found the car starts first time without problems. What I'm I bypassing here that could be the issue?

Edited by Micky Myers on 07/06/2018 at 15:19

Vauxhall Zafira B 1.6 (55 plate) - Vauxhall Zafira warm start problem. - hardway

You need live data,

NOT codes,

that's just a starting point.

Live data if pssible in graph form on the coolant temperature sensor.

Monitor it right from cold start up to running temp.

The graph form will show up signal drops and give a far better picture of what the ECU is actually "seeing".

Vauxhall Zafira B 1.6 (55 plate) - Vauxhall Zafira warm start problem. - elekie&a/c doctor

" the first warm start is usually just a click" .I would think you have a starter or connection problem here.

Vauxhall Zafira B 1.6 (55 plate) - Vauxhall Zafira warm start problem. - Big John

Why bother with the labour of removing and checking the starter motor - just fit a new one!

The click is the solenoid of the starter motor but if the brushes are worn then the motor bit may not work. Whilst changing the motor also checking/replacing the thick high current leads from the battery (the red + lead to the solenoid/starter and the black "-" lead to the car body and engine earth). These leads are usually just crimped and can go high resistance due to age, corrosion and vibration.

I'm not sure the precise layout of the Zafira but the black earth lead from the battery to the car body that carries on to the engine as an earth woth an initial look. I've undone these fron the car body for them to just fall apart.

Edited by Big John on 10/06/2018 at 13:25