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Mk7 57 plate 1.25 Ford Fiesta - Cambelt change easy DIY? - GazKaz

Hi everyone

My in laws have the above car which runs well but is overdue a cambelt change. They can't afford the £500 quoted by a local indy. I've changed a few cambelts over the years so not afraid to have a go. Is there any specialist tools I'm gonna need? Also, which make of belt kit is the best to go for?

Cheers

Mk7 57 plate 1.25 Ford Fiesta - Cambelt change easy DIY? - madf

Borrow a haynes manual and ask the Fiesta forums for tips.

Mk7 57 plate 1.25 Ford Fiesta - Cambelt change easy DIY? - GazKaz

Thanks madf, I have been searching but can only find mostly diesel cambelt changes. Still looking tho.........cheers.

Mk7 57 plate 1.25 Ford Fiesta - Cambelt change easy DIY? - Chris M

Definately get a Haynes Manual and read up first. It's a 4 spanner job, so not as straightforward as some. I did my son's '59 1.4 Fiesta last year. I too have changed a few over the years, but not one of these. Much easier job the second time!

You will need to get a camshaft locking tool as well as a flywheel locking tool.

Gates and Conti belts are good makes to go for. Some come with a new crankshaft pulley bolt included. The 1.4 has three types fitted. The kit I bought had the two smaller ones, but I needed the largest which I had to order from Ford (1.25 may be different?). You will also need new camshaft pulley bolts.

You will also need a new auxillary drive belt. These are stretchy so make sure the one you get has the fitting tool included. I have a Laser universal fitting tool, but it (read I) struggled on my son's car as the pulley was too deep for it.

Mk7 57 plate 1.25 Ford Fiesta - Cambelt change easy DIY? - GazKaz

Hi Chris M

Haynes is a must but I'm having difficulty finding the correct one. The car is a Mk7 57 plate fiesta but the Haynes only list the Mk7 from a 08 plate onwards. Would this be the one to get?

Locking tools are a must I'm guessing. eBay is probably my best bet.

Mk7 57 plate 1.25 Ford Fiesta - Cambelt change easy DIY? - Chris Miller

Mk7 was launched early 2008 so I guess there may be a few '57s around. I doubt it will make any difference with what Haynes says.

I can't exactly recall where I got my locking tools, but it would have been eBay or Amazon. You may be lucky and find used on eBay at a good price. Including a Haynes of course!

Mk7 57 plate 1.25 Ford Fiesta - Cambelt change easy DIY? - skidpan

In my experience changing a cam belt is not that difficult but accessing it can be. On one engine we had to support the engine and remove the front engine mount. On another the timing marks would only have been visible with the engine on a bench (or remove inner and outer wings). Solved that by putting lots of marks on pulleys etc before satarting work.

On a Ford with a stretchy belt there is no option but to renewthe auxilliary belt, the old one normally has to be cut off.

Not 100% certain about the Sigma engine but on the Zetec the cam locking tool must not be used to hold the cams in position whilst tightening up the cam pulleys, You will damage oreven possibly break the cams. Same with the TDC finding tool, use that to hold the crank in position whilst tighteneing the bolt and its goodbye crank.

Holding the crank is best done by using the ring gear and a suitable tool and the cam pulleys need a suiltable tool and a 2nd person for tightening. Haynes details the tools plus showhow to make DIY alternatives. They work a treat.

Mk7 57 plate 1.25 Ford Fiesta - Cambelt change easy DIY? - gordonbennet

There is only one reason such a basically simple engine should require locking tools, and that is to make it as difficult as possible for the home mechanic do do their own, the thing i can't understand is why.

Its a one hour operation on Toyota's 3.0 D4D engine, you need a set of allen keys or allen sockets and a basic socket set and maybe a 10mm ring spanner, thats it, no special tools, the timing marks are already there, you line them before removing the old belt to check, loosen the tensioner, slip the old belt off, swap out the tensioner and idler for new ones, put the belt on ensuring the marks are still alingned and pull the grenade pin on the tensioner, job done, no touching the auxilliary belt no crank or cam pulleys to bother with.

Now if a Diesel can be so simple, why is a petrol Ford, which used to be The choice of the home mechanic, so stupidly complicated?

Mk7 57 plate 1.25 Ford Fiesta - Cambelt change easy DIY? - skidpan

the timing marks are already there, you line them before removing the old belt to check, loosen the tensioner, slip the old belt off, swap out the tensioner and idler for new ones, put the belt on ensuring the marks are still alingned and pull the grenade pin on the tensioner, job done,

If you simply rotated the engine to align the timing marks on a Ford Zetec and removed the belt without locking the cams they would rotate out of position due to the force on the lobes form the valve springs, the cams would settle to the position of least resistance. It is then a difficult job to get them back into position, I know, you have to when you build an engine from scratch or even change a head gasket.

no touching the auxilliary belt no crank or cam pulleys to bother with.

You should be able to get by without touching the cam pulleys but you have to remove the crank pulley before you can remove the bottom part of the belt cover. On newer Ford engines there is no keyway on the crank thus replacing it in its original position is virtually impossible even with loads of paint marks. Not sure if this applies to the Sigma, the Haynes is in the workshop but the Mazda Duratec is inflicted with this complication (but that is a chain cam of course). None of the recent Fords have keyways or dowels on the cams which is a right pain when rebuilding.

Mk7 57 plate 1.25 Ford Fiesta - Cambelt change easy DIY? - gordonbennet
You should be able to get by without touching the cam pulleys but you have to remove the crank pulley before you can remove the bottom part of the belt cover.

Nope, the only reason you touch the crank pulley on this Toyota engine is to use the bolt to turn the engine over to align the timing marks, with the timing marks aligned nothing is likely to spring out of position anyway.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANx1EpdMFqY

all cambelts should be like this

I first came across the lack of woodruff keys on VW's 2.4 Diesel as fitted to LT vans and Volvo 940, as you say its a pita.

Edited by gordonbennet on 26/03/2018 at 19:15

Mk7 57 plate 1.25 Ford Fiesta - Cambelt change easy DIY? - Chris Miller

The camshafts on the Sigma engine have flats so you can use an open ended spanner to hold.

Fiat's Fire engine used to be one of the simplest to replace the timing belt on, but now they have gone the Ford route so locking tools are required. I'd be interested to know why. Could it be it makes production cheaper or is it that it makes timing more accurate and hence emissions are better controlled leading to lower VED?