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Rover 25 1.4 year 2000 - Loss of water - Delysher

have to top up the water resorvoir every two weeks. Can't see where I am loosing the water.

No leaks of the water loss on the ground.

My heater works in the car, however the control settings switch ( one and two ) do not work the hot air, only settings 3 and 4 work.

Any ideas ?

Would a water pressure test show up the problem

regards

Delysia

Rover 25 1.4 year 2000 - Loss of water - Fernando P

Check the coolant for signs of oil contamination as the cylinder head gasket is liable to failure in these engines and this results on coolant being lost regularly. In my experience, the head gasket needs replacing - with all that is involved.

Rover 25 1.4 year 2000 - Loss of water - Peter.N.

I would concur, the water is probably being blown out of the header tank overflow, to check put the overflow pipe into a recepticle.

Rover 25 1.4 year 2000 - Loss of water - John F

I would concur, the water is probably being blown out of the header tank overflow, to check put the overflow pipe into a recepticle.

That's when things have got really bad! In the early stages, the beginnings of head gasket failure will just suck an undetectable amount of coolant into the cylinders and out through the exhaust, requiring only an occasional top-up. One can delude oneself that's acceptable.

Although known for gasket failure, I think part of the reason is that the bolts which hold this odd engine design together are far too long. After years of vibration, expansion and contraction, I think they stretch, failing to squeeze the head onto the block as tightly as they should.

If I had one of these dreadful old engines which started to lose coolant, I would undo the bolts by 90deg, then by another 90deg, then retorque them. It would be an interesting experiment to mark them and see by how many more degrees they would retighten from their original position. If you try this, please let us know the result!

Rover 25 1.4 year 2000 - Loss of water - focussed

If I had one of these dreadful old engines which started to lose coolant, I would undo the bolts by 90deg, then by another 90deg, then retorque them. It would be an interesting experiment to mark them and see by how many more degrees they would retighten from their original position. If you try this, please let us know the result!

Did you forget to mention to drain the coolant from the block first if doing a re-torque?

Rover 25 1.4 year 2000 - Loss of water - John F

Good question. In an unpressurised state I doubt if half a turn loosening would allow the rest of the seal to be broken. Even if it was, the weight of the head should maintain continence. IIRC it's difficult enough to break the seal when all the bolts are out and you are bashing it with a wooden mallet trying to get the damn thing off! If you disagree, try this experiment - fill a glass half full (to preclude vacuum retention), place a thin card over it and invert onto a smooth worktop. None of the water will escape.

Rover 25 1.4 year 2000 - Loss of water - hardway

Though noted for h/gasket failure a simple dye test will confirm/refute

Ebay sell them for less than a tenner,

Look for block tester.

Idiot proof test.

Rover 25 1.4 year 2000 - Loss of water - RT

Though noted for h/gasket failure a simple dye test will confirm/refute

Ebay sell them for less than a tenner,

Look for block tester.

Idiot proof test.

Dye tests and gas sniffer tests aren't 100% absolute. The coolant is sometimes sucked into the engine.

I had a Hyundai Santa Fe 2.2 CRDi which was slowly losing coolant - despite umpteen checks the dealer couldn't pin-point the problem - after a terminal boil-over event towing a caravan down the motorway, the dealer got Hyundai to authorise a partial engine strip-down but even then it took an eagle-eye to spot the minute evidence of leakage across the cylinder head gasket.

After the rebuild, the engine felt more powerful and definitely more economical.

I only kept on at the dealer as I'd had a similar issue on a previous Vauxhall so I knew it was possible, however unlikely.

Rover 25 1.4 year 2000 - Loss of water - Ashyrx8

Firstly, there is a lot of speculation, poor advice and in acurracte talk about these engines.

I have worked on these cars and engines for many years, and have owned several, including high mileage examples (Rover 45 1.8 I took to 170k miles).

The head gasket is an item that can fail on these engines yes. Many of these failures however occur when undetected coolant loss occurs causing the level to drop to low. Running with no/low coolant/overheating of any engine can damage the head gasket - these light weight engines especially so.

There are several 'weak points' of the cooling system on the Rover's with this engine type that can cause leaks:

1) Inlet manifold gasket (black plastic manifold only) which can leak both externally and internally (giving head gasket failure type symptoms). External leaks will run down the back of the engine, or run around the head to block joint (which can look like a leak from the head gasket!). Internally they leak in to a cylinder - which can cause rough running on start up.

2) Water pump (in my experience around 60-70k miles these can start to leak). This can be hard to spot.

3) expansion tank cap

Rover 25 1.4 year 2000 - Loss of water - gordonbennet

edit, old thread dragged up again, note the OP never did reply, quelle surprise.

Edited by gordonbennet on 18/05/2018 at 10:40

Rover 25 1.4 year 2000 - Loss of water - John F

edit, old thread dragged up again, note the OP never did reply, quelle surprise.

I wonder if a moderator could send OPs an email asking for a response to our collective suggestions when the outcome might prove interesting? Could it be automated after, say, five reponses along the lines of....'please let us know the outcome of your problem?'