Just a thought, why not get quotes for a new one via brokers, and a ball park basic cash sale figure from we buy any old stuff, see if the price to change can be bettered, if it can it gives you some ammunition to renegotiate.

Presumably you intend to buy another one in the spring if you don't get one now?, if this is the case i'd have a ring around one or two other dealers and see what they can come up with (cancelled order they need to shift?), and don't forget to ask Hyundai about a deal on the Santa Fe (including broker quotes) if that might be an acceptable alternative.

That's a good idea about brokers and have never used one.

Yes we intend to buy one hopefully in Spring at the latest otherwise the mileage will be even more!!!

Thanks.

PS. Towing with an auto is so much easier than with a manual. And the Sorento has a sensible torque convertor box.

If the former--then is there such a thing these days as a purely British car without any foreign components that will remain price static for a year or so?

Will be interesting to see if British assembled Toyota/Nissan/Honda/JLR price increases are less than the alternatives made elsewhere.

What never ceases to amaze me is how little the British value still excellent used cars where in other countries this doesn't apply, this trend seems to continue no matter how much new car prices rise here...course sods law dictates because i like older Landcruisers that the above trend does not apply and used prices are strengthening if anything.

"Given future Kia price rises"-interesting. Will be these rises be due to the falling pound or is it a nice excuse to hike a profit?

If the former--then is there such a thing these days as a purely British car without any foreign components that will remain price static for a year or so?

There was a good article in the Telegraph on Saturday. It may have been in the Money supplement. It goes into the car industry and the currency fluctuations and gives some surprising facts. The outcome was that the car industry should be about cost neutral on balance between cheaper exports and more expensive imports on components and finished cars. Also, British car factories are the most productive in Europe so to shift production to other European plants would put a 5 or 6% levy on the cars made. Very interesting and should highlight which manufacturers are profiteering on the situation and which are genuinely affected. When I worked for a company in the 70's and 80's they forward ordered up to a year in advance all based on Swiss Francs, a very stable currency. These businesses know how to get the very best deal and protect themselves, so I bet they still do domething similar.

Cheers Concrete