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Nissan Qashqai - Pitted brake discs on 4 year old car - b80

Hi,

We purchased a 2012 Qashqai at the turn of the year. My wife mentioned the there was a slight judder when braking. My own fault but I kind of dismissed it at the time.

Recently I drove car and I could feel it more. So I called the dealership we bought it from and they advised brakes aren't covered by our extended warranty and this is what is probably causing the problem.

My father in law visited at the weekend and he took a look at the brakes and could feel a ridge around the rim and said the brakes are badly pitted - he has a background in mechanics. He said this is normally caused by a car standing unused for a long period of time - we were aware that Qashqai had been exchanged months before we bought it. He also said it's extremely unlikely they would have gone from decent condition to that bad since we bought the car 5 months ago, carrying out regular drives totalling around 3k miles

I called the dealership to advise these findings and they basically said sorry but it passed out multipoint check before we gave you the car and they would have noticed if there was an issue with the brakes and we'd still have to pay to resolve the issue.

Is it a case of we'll just have to suck it up and pay for repairs or is there anything else we can do to - if not I will take it to my indie garage to save on costs.

Thanks,

Edited by b80 on 07/06/2016 at 22:52

Nissan Qashqai - Pitted brake discs on 4 year old car - Cyd

I'd say you've left it too long. Unless you can prove otherwise, of course.

Nissan Qashqai - Pitted brake discs on 4 year old car - Ethan Edwards

We have a 2012 Qashqai and at 36k miles have had to have new disks and pads. It's a heavy old bus and is heavy on brakes. Incidentally my previous car a Yaris had plenty of life in the original pads and disks after 50k miles. So I'm not a heavy brake user ! Honest.

So it's part of the costs of ownership I'm afraid.

Nissan Qashqai - Pitted brake discs on 4 year old car - b80

Cheers chaps. Noticed online a lot of reports of brakes going around 35k. Ours is at 26k

Edited by b80 on 07/06/2016 at 23:39

Nissan Qashqai - Pitted brake discs on 4 year old car - brum

There are many reasons for pitted or corroded disks, could be bad quality disks or pads, excessive exposure to water through washing or rain followed by a period of standing which could be just a couple of days etc, excessive heat, which in turn could be binding brakes or severe use, to name but a few and often a combination of all these causes.

Low useage (3k in 5 months is low) is likely to lead to pitted disks over time.

However feeling a ridge at the rim is normal, after 25k miles, the disc will have worn thinner, leaving a lip or ridge at the rim, because the pads dont contact there.

It costs around £200 to change discs and pads, less than half that if you diy. Just change them and move on.

Edited by brum on 08/06/2016 at 01:23

Nissan Qashqai - Pitted brake discs on 4 year old car - gordonbennet

As Brum says this is a remarkaby cheap fix especially with well bought decent quality pattern parts, and a good opportunity for the person doing the job to give the brakes a decent strip clean and most importantly a proper lube up with the correct brake grease, all four.

Might be worth slipping a fluid change in too whilst everything is easy to get at.

A wear ridge and minor pitting might be expected by now and wouldn't necessarily be the reason for replacement, and neither is it necessarily the reason for judder, hence why i suggest making sure everything gets a good lubing...too often the modern way of servicing brakes is to peer at them and squirt brake cleaner at the things, this is utter rubbish, they need a proper strip clean lube at least every other year and preferably a good check over every year or by the time these cars are 6 years old some calipers might be heading for replacement.

Edited by gordonbennet on 08/06/2016 at 08:23

Nissan Qashqai - Pitted brake discs on 4 year old car - b80

Thanks everyone, appreciate the input. I'm a bit of layman with cars so its good to get your input. I'll take it to my local indie garage for them to carry out the necessary.

Also noticed tyre wear on outside of front tyres - it was pointed out by my father in law they will need changing before the winter. He said I could ask the garage to swap the front and rear tyres instead. Would you say this is the best option?

Nissan Qashqai - Pitted brake discs on 4 year old car - gordonbennet

I've rotated tyres for years and always will, best for 4x4's if yours is one to have similer wear rates all round so the transmission has an easy life as possible.

I'd get the garage to check the front wheel alignment whilst they have it.

Edited by gordonbennet on 08/06/2016 at 09:38

Nissan Qashqai - Pitted brake discs on 4 year old car - b80

Just spoken to my indie and he said we may be covered by the law up to 6 months concerning the brakes issue, even if the garages warranty doesn't cover it off. Does anyone know whther this is likely to be the case?

Guess the issue is proof - as mentioned above.

Edited by b80 on 08/06/2016 at 11:37

Nissan Qashqai - Pitted brake discs on 4 year old car - brum

Just spoken to my indie and he said we may be covered by the law up to 6 months concerning the brakes issue, even if the garages warranty doesn't cover it off. Does anyone know whther this is likely to be the case?

Guess the issue is proof - as mentioned above.

Brake discs and pads are never covered, even when buying a new car. They are a consumable and always the prime exclusion on the warranty. Its like complaining that the car got dirty, the tyres have worn, or the wiper blades smear.

Nissan Qashqai - Pitted brake discs on 4 year old car - bathtub tom

Also noticed tyre wear on outside of front tyres

I'd definitely get the tracking checked.

Nissan Qashqai - Pitted brake discs on 4 year old car - pd

Brake discs wear out - they are a consummable. If you want new discs on a car, buy a new one.

Any used car will have some wear on the brakes to a greater or lesser extent.

Just replace them if they are needed - sounds as if they've done the normal sort of miles for this car anyway.

You have no comeback on something like this and, why should you, anymore than complaining it has run out of fuel?

Nissan Qashqai - Pitted brake discs on 4 year old car - Ethan Edwards

Yep same thing on my 12 Qashqai and yep my tracking is spot on . I had it checked. I swapped the rears to the front and bought two new ones. You'll be telling me next you've had three replacement head units four GPS antennas and a new front fog light all under warranty? No? I have.

Nissan Qashqai - Pitted brake discs on 4 year old car - barney100

This perfectly illustrates a typical used car warranty...everything is covered except things that go wrong. 'wear and tear sir...combustibles... must be the way you have driven it...the engine never fell out before you had it..the warranty belongs to the warranty company...oh no sir...you haven't read paragraph 4 section 2 subsection 67 which excludes the problem YOU have.

Nissan Qashqai - Pitted brake discs on 4 year old car - RT

Wear & tear isn't covered on any warranty - why should it be ?

Some brands do though define publicly for each component what time/distance limits are applied - outside that it's wear & tear but under that it's warranty.

Keep It Simple, Silly (KISS).

Edited by RT on 09/06/2016 at 11:32

Nissan Qashqai - Pitted brake discs on 4 year old car - Ethan Edwards

My 2p if you are only able to afford to run a particular car by praying that a warranty will bail you out of any possible expensive trouble then....IMO you shouldn't own the car as you really can't afford it. Run something cheaper ...like a pushbike. My opinion only....

Nissan Qashqai - Pitted brake discs on 4 year old car - MGspannerman
I think your 2p is not money well spent. The OP asks a perfectly sensible if somewhat naive question. He is not relying on a warranty to bail him out or saying that he can't afford to run the car. Your comments are ill founded and do nothing to take the discussion forward.

This problem has presumably only now been noted now rather than when the vehicle was purchased. Hence the dealer is correct in their view, as is the OP in saying he may well have to suck it up. Halfords offer a "brakes for life" replacement service at less than main dealer prices. Worth a thought perhaps.
Nissan Qashqai - Pitted brake discs on 4 year old car - Ethan Edwards

OK nobody else is entitled to an opinion duly noted for when you become forum police chief.

And frankly as tempting as the Halford offer sounds, I personally would prefer a good independent garage.

Nissan Qashqai - Pitted brake discs on 4 year old car - brum

The halfords brakes for life deal is only pads/shoes everything else discs etc you pay for each time, its a marketing con.

Nissan Qashqai - Pitted brake discs on 4 year old car - MGspannerman
Clearly my comment has caused you some offence. It seems that my opinion of your post is not warranted, whilst yours of the OP is. I am not attempting in any way to censor or police the discussion, that is the role of the moderator. A forum is a place to express a point of view, and within certain boundaries we enjoy freedom of speech. Everybody is free to express their ignorance. Even you.
Nissan Qashqai - Pitted brake discs on 4 year old car - brum

now, now dears, put your handbags down and keep calm.

dear moderator, please lock the thread.

Edited by brum on 10/06/2016 at 16:04

Nissan Qashqai - Pitted brake discs on 4 year old car - Avant

Agreed - as the OP's question, a perfectly reasonable one, was answered courteously by the first few who replied. The OP kindly acknowledged the answers even though they weren't able to offer much comfort.

End of story.