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VW Polo (2014 1.4 Blue Motion) - Driving to Spain - binkyhuckaback

Hi. My girlfriend and I have decided to drive to Spain. We're hoping to catch the ferry from Dover to Dunkirk and then drive to Murcia in Spain. We want to avoid Paris itself (but may be prepared to take the perifierique). Neither of us have driven this distance before.

Can anyone tell me how many miles we can realisitically expect to cover each day without overdoing it (ie being able to have a few hours to ourselves in the evenings and a stop for lunch)?

Also, does anyone have any tips for making the journey easier or suggest any towns/cities/roads to absolutely avoid or are 'must-see'? We thought we might travel down one side of Paris and home the other side.

Thanks!

VW Polo (2014 1.4 Blue Motion) - Driving to Spain - RobJP

The thing is, the distance you cover in a day is largely determined by the roads that you use - which will determine what you see.

To explain further. If you use the autoroutes (motorways) and split the driving, you can quite easily cover 4-500 miles a day, and still have a leisurely evening meal and a couple of drinks before bedtime.

If, on the other hand, you want to really SEE the area you're driving through, "That town looks pretty, let's stop for a coffee and a wander", sort of thing, then 200 or 250 miles a day could well be the limit.

Dunkirk to Murcia is 1,200 miles. By the quick routes. So it could take anything from 2.5 days to a week to drive down there, going by that.

Alternatively, if just driving solidly, with 3 or 4 loo/coffee/food breaks a day, you could do the trip in under 2 days. Leaving Dunkirk one morning, arriving in Murcia late the following evening.

It all depends on how long you've got to play with, time-wise. If it's a 2 week holiday, then you probably don't want to spend most the time driving there and back, with just a couple of days at the destination. If it's a week away, then I'd seriously suggest flying. Else you will spend a lot of time on the road, no matter what.

As an example, my longest ever driving day was from North Wales (where I live) to Thurso (just west from John o'Groat's). Left at 7am, coffee break about 10am, lunch at 2pm, coffee at 4pm, arrived there at 7:30pm. 540 miles. One hell of a long day behind the wheel.

VW Polo (2014 1.4 Blue Motion) - Driving to Spain - focussed

Another alternative is to take a ferry to either Santander or Bilbao in northern Spain and then drive to Murcia.

Michelin calculates a cost of about £375 including peage toll costs and fuel for Dunkirk to Murcia, then you have to pay for accomodation on top.

The ferry costs are £400-£500 including cabin.

www.brittany-ferries.co.uk/ferry-routes/ferries-sp...e

Depends what you want to do really-remember the french are all on holiday using the roads in August.

VW Polo (2014 1.4 Blue Motion) - Driving to Spain - binkyhuckaback

Thanks for the information RobJP - very useful. We're going to treat the journey as part of the holiday, but just wanted to make sure that we weren't being overly optimistic.

VW Polo (2014 1.4 Blue Motion) - Driving to Spain - FP

I suggest you do not use the Paris péripherique. It's not good at the best of times and at other times is dire. Fortunately there are alternatives. If you're going to Spain, going west of Paris is best.

I feel I can drive safely for two hours before needing a break. If you use motorways (which you can for the majority of your journey through France) and swap drivers you can keep going for a whole day, though you will need to eat at some point. So the maximum comfortable distance in one day would be 300 - 400 miles, maybe a bit more.

Personally, I can't drive through France without factoring in some sight-seeing.

There is so much to see I hesitate to start a list. If you go down the "left side" of Paris you have the glorous cathedral cities of northern France, which are without equal. (However, Reims is on the other side.)

The central parts of France are full of stunning scenery. It really is up to you how much time you spend on the journey.

One thing that always amazes me is the Millau suspension bridge, in southern central France, which is on a motorway you may well use.

I can recommend a very good website (About France dot com), which will give you lots of ideas. The page to go to for routes is this:

tinyurl.com/oocvd4l

and there's plenty of other advice about where to go and what to see.

One other thing: if you go by ferry to Dunkerque, you're going by DFDS. They tell me that due to the disruption around Dover, you need to allow an extra 90 minutes to catch your sailing, and you may well find that services are disrupted, so allow for a later arrival in France than you were expecting. Don't forget French time is one hour ahead of the UK; you may not be able to cover as much distance on the first day as you may hope.

I'm thinking of going over myself in September!

VW Polo (2014 1.4 Blue Motion) - Driving to Spain - slkfanboy

Would it not make more sense to fly and hire a car at the other end. it will most likely be easier, cheaper and more fun!

I have driven to france and with two drivers 12 hours in 3 hour sessions 800 miles per day on good roads in good conditions is pos. but not that much fun!

VW Polo (2014 1.4 Blue Motion) - Driving to Spain - Zolasdad

Hi. My girlfriend and I have decided to drive to Spain. Neither of us have driven this distance before.

Have either of you driven abroad before?
Do not underestimate how tiring it is driving on the "wrong" side of the road, sitting on the "wrong" side of the car, with speed limits posted in km/h, road signs in a different language, different rules and road etiquette etc.
I have been living in Spain for a year now and drive most days, but I still need to concentrate much more than i did in the U.K. and consequently find several hours behind the wheel tiring.
As others have said, depending on how long you are going to be here, it may be better on you both to fly and hire locally.
Whichever you decide, drive safely and enjoy the trip

VW Polo (2014 1.4 Blue Motion) - Driving to Spain - focussed

I would hasten to add here that the Brittany Ferrys ships are like small cruise liners - very well run, clean cabins, wi-fi, loads a to do, shops, restaurants, cafes, bars, not like a grubby cross channel ferry at all.

VW Polo (2014 1.4 Blue Motion) - Driving to Spain - brum

A couple of weeks in calais would be more exciting!!

"I love the smell of burning tyres in the morning"

VW Polo (2014 1.4 Blue Motion) - Driving to Spain - drd63
Audio books are a great way of passing the miles, many great roads in France, a distant memory but by chance I came across the N102 heading north towards I think Clermont Ferrand in the Masif Central, awesome road, I was on a bike but recall lots of overtaking opportunities even though traffic was light. Just get out and drive, as others have said distance depends on sightseeing and type of road the days of being able to cover big distances in France untroubled by speed limits are long gone. As a word of warning I've encountered epic traffic jams in France around Paris and heading to the alps in winter and towards the south west in summer.
VW Polo (2014 1.4 Blue Motion) - Driving to Spain - Nickdm

Couple of thoughts FWIW...

- I wouldn't go anywhere near Dover or Calais with the high risk of disruption. Definitely take one of the (pricier) crossings from the SW or the South Coast. Fewer kms to drive on the other side too;

- French roads in August can be awfully busy - especially down South. Avoid long distance trips at weekends, maybe avoid the autoroutes altogether;

- I'd recommend minimum 2 nights stopovers in France, to avoid fatigue and to enjoy the country!

VW Polo (2014 1.4 Blue Motion) - Driving to Spain - DirtyDieselDogg

Meh,

bin there done that!.

Just do it.

Dont overthink it.

We did however generally, in the days well before mobile phones, let alone smart phones, simply scout for each nights accomodation, wherever we ended up, which was a trifle fraught bytimes.

Only once spent a night on the forest floor having failed to find suitable accomodation.

All in a (bought 2nd hand and self maintained) 1100cc Polo, then a BX Citroen, ditto.

No worries.

PS

Do not in the least let driving on the wrong side deter you.

An absolute non issue.

More likely to drive on the wrong side back in the UK after 2 or 3 weeks away in Europe.

The human brain adapts remarkably quickly.

Marcus

VW Polo (2014 1.4 Blue Motion) - Driving to Spain - cocorico

OK, this is my thought……

I think 200-300 miles a day is probably the limit. Beyond this distance, you will be just tired all the times.

You can avoid traffic around Paris peripherique if you drive there between 12am and 5am.

The Millau Bridge is a “must see” item.

One of the option I thought was, to use the “Autotrain” for oneway to save time. You drive to Paris, load up your car at Paris-Bercy station onto the train and pick up the car in, say, Biarritz.

You can take TGV to Biarritz. You will have more time to see the city before your car arrive. (Your car will arrive next day.)

http://autotrain.voyages-sncf.com/autotrain-webapp/pdf/common/Guide_Auto_Train_2015_en.pdf

Edited by cocorico on 04/08/2015 at 09:56

VW Polo (2014 1.4 Blue Motion) - Driving to Spain - Mon06

We have driven to Poland 2 years ago in my X reg Polo , 14 hours non stop , it was about with 1000 miles only taken a break for fuelling. We swapped driver seats a few times . I think Spain you looking at about 20 hours so you could break in half and do a stop over somewhere in France.

Edited by Mon06 on 05/08/2015 at 11:56

VW Polo (2014 1.4 Blue Motion) - Driving to Spain - DirtyDieselDogg

Despite reasonably regularly (on a seasonal basis) doing 500 odd miles in a single "leg", and yes is tiring, but sometimes pleasenter to lie up/take it lazy for a day at ones choosen destination, that spend a wasted night somewhere hum-drum mid way.

Our single biggest drive was, for a few Easters in a row, from Santander to Torremolinos, off the boat early am, & 600 odd miles later after a couple of stops, in Torremolinos later that night.

Ditto for the return.

But shattered the next couple of days, and I was younger then.

Wor Son still has "night terrors" about hundreds of miles of apparently unchanging Olive trees for a view, any time he emerged from beneath his duvet (he was strapped in a child seat btw)

PS

Per the post above, I really really really want to visit the Millau viaduct, cos I still remember crossing the Tarn George before it was built.

Edited by DirtyDieselDogg on 05/08/2015 at 12:30

VW Polo (2014 1.4 Blue Motion) - Driving to Spain - Smileyman

Take a crossing to Cherbourg and stop off to see the WWII beaches & Bayeux tapestry, then go via Le Mans to Poitiers and see Futurescope, (probably one night stop en route), continue south and see Cahors (and others) along the former N20 continue to Toulouse & Andorra (supposed to be cheap petrol there!) but avoid Barcelona (too many shananigans with tourist cars) ... return to take in Millau bridge then head back to Caen or Le Havre for the return crossing.

Rather than worry about daly maximum drives, look at your total trip duration, allocate time for Murcia and then split the remaining days for the journey, say 3 nights en route each way, some days will be more driving others more sightseeing. At a guess 300 miles max on non motorways or 500 on motorways, my old AA book says expect an average of 30-35 mph on single carriageway roads, experience tells me this is a good guide after allowing for towns etc. Whatever you do don't exceed the speed limit (by much if at all) as the police in France are much stricter these days, on the spot fines (1st hand experience 150kph on motorway) or vehicle confiscation are common dependant on speed above the limit. Also check rules for radar detection and sat nav, vehicle confiscation is a threat here too.

Have a great trip and please do post a report when you return.

Edited by Smileyman on 05/08/2015 at 23:15