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KIA Carens - Second hand car issues. What are my rights? - Topsy83

Sorry it's a long one!!

We bought a Kia Carens 06 Diesel on the 28th January. Full service history (bar 1 stamp), 1 owner, tidy car, seemed fine £1750). I've always bought 2nd hand cars as been brought up with them and usually pick well. This time I think I was obscured by the fact we were desperate for a new car. We bought from a car dealer, doesn't have a forecourt but is a registered trader with a registered company.

2 weeks after purchase we realised the brake discs/pads were knackered and were about to send it for replacement when the turbocharger blocked and failed. Dealer was surprisingly ok about it, picked up the car, had the turbo reconditioned and the lines all flushed out.

We got the car back after 2.5 weeks then sent it for new discs/pads. Probably should of asked the dealer to sort them, I did tell him about them but to be honest we were just pleased that he'd done the turbo.

Got the brakes fixed including the calipers. Then a few weeks ago we realised both front tyres were exceptionally bald to the point of the wires showing. 2 new tyres and the tracking fixed later and we think we're finally sorted. (kicking myself that I had picked up on tracking when purchasing but put it down to a 'minor' thing that can easily be fixed.

So now almost 3 months after purchase the engine management light has come on and it's the bleeping DPF and there's a small leak in an oil line linked to the turbo. It's at my garage, just waiting to hear the exact details but looks like it needs new DPF or a DPF flush at the very least.

So i'm coming to terms with the fact that i've bought a duff car. It's my first diesel and looks like i've made rookie mistakes. I will admit to it and don't need anyone to point out that I've been stupid.

So what now? Do I:

a) contact the dealer, tell him all the issues we've had and see what he says.

b) put it down to experience and learn from it?

The car has no dealer warranty but theoretically I am covered under trading standards. Is it worth pursuing and entering into an argument with the dealer and everything that follows? I am usually very forthright and will stand my ground whereas the husband is passive but in this instance I am intimated by the situation being the woman pretending I know more than I do about cars.

We've spent £400 on it so far without the cost of the DPF. The car was only meant to be a stop gap for 8 months until we can save and afford a 7 seater. In the scheme of things £1750 isn't a huge amount to lose but we can't afford anything else yet.

What should we do?

KIA Carens - Second hand car issues. What are my rights? - pd

£1750 car, 3 months after purchase with a consumable part (DPF's do not last forever) no chance really.

Cars need bits replacing, old cheap ones more than most I'm afraid.

I think you did well to get the turbo done and shows the dealer is pretty resonable (many wouldn't) but a DPF is just something which needs to be replaced sometimes. Some manufacturers (e.g. Volvo) only rate then for 75k and consider them something to be replaced as part of the service schedule.

KIA Carens - Second hand car issues. What are my rights? - Galaxy

I'd just be interested to know how many miles it's done.

KIA Carens - Second hand car issues. What are my rights? - 72 dudes

Largely agree with pd, I'm afraid. It was a cheap car and had several things wrong with it, which should have been noticed by yourselves before you purchased, to be honest.

Put it down to experience and move on, or sell it via auction or We Buy Any Car and cut your losses.

You can't really expect the dealer to do anything about it, as you've had some of the work done elsewhere. Had you gone back to him and had things sorted at the time he did the turbo, he would have had some obligation to put things right. The car was cheap for a reason.

KIA Carens - Second hand car issues. What are my rights? - gordonbennet

Well, you missed the tyres and the discs and no doubt you've kicked yourself since, not the end of the world, both consumables on any and every car.

Turbo replacement by the dealer seems fair, good on him, but it's failed for a reason and if the car were mine i'd like to know why.

DPF blocking might be the use you're giving the car, it's entirely possible Diesel isn't your best bet, hopefully it can be chemically cleaned, but your use could block it up again....though i do wonder if the turbo failure and the subsequent DPF are related, maybe a whole load of mucky oil got sent down the exhaust and patially blocked the DPF, might be worth asking your mechanic if this is a possibility.

All in all the car doesn't sound too bad to me and it might be worth hanging onto for a while.

KIA Carens - Second hand car issues. What are my rights? - Topsy83

Thanks everyone for your answers.

The car had 69,000 miles on purchase it now has about 71,500.

So my mechanic had his electrician look at it today and they've stripped it down. The fault code had come up with the DPF but on closer inspection the DPF is actually fine and the fault is with the DPF sensor. A new sensor is only about £110 as opposed to the £250-£300 the DPF would of cost.

There is a blockage in a pipe leading to the turbo caused by soot in the pipe which they are sorting and changing the oil and oil filter etc just to be safe. Fingers crossed they'll sort the above and it won't be too bad a car in the end.

So feeling a lot happier about it now. We are putting it down to experience and have indeed learnt by our mistakes, at least the brakes and tyres are consumables. I keep telling myself that at the age of 32 in the past 10 years i've bought 9 2nd hand cars for myself, friends and relatives usually around 8-10 years old and this is the first 'bad egg' and also the first ever diesel. So statistically I haven't done too badly but in the scheme of things it's been a steep learning curve on the diesel front.

Gordonbennet - funny you should say about kicking myself as I really do, I should of trusted my gut instinct, I knew the tracking was dodgy, the spare showed it was, I questionned the dealer on it and he threw me some crap about never having being questionned over a spare wheel. Brake wise, when testing the car I did a sharp stop and heard a crunch. I put it down to grit but I should of trusted my instincts.

I know my stuff I just wasn't tuned in enough on the day I bought it.

Thanks again for your time.