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BMW 3 Series E90 - Tyre noise - JGH

I have a 318i Sport Plus fitted with run flat tyres on 18inch wheels. The tyres have always been fairly noisy, rather as expected but have lasted well ( 31K miles). More recently I have noticed a pronounced drone on smoooth roads between 40-50mph. Dealer says tyre noise, having checked wheel bearings but I am disappointed and this must mean most similar cars have the same problem?

BMW 3 Series E90 - Tyre noise - gordonbennet

Runflats, wearing down, big wheels with low profile tyres.

All adds up to increased noise and harsh ride.

You can help the noise intrusion, sometimes considerably, by soundproofing, usually the noise is coming via the wheelarches, normally the rears..you could try using a couple of old duvets as temporary soundproofing to find/eliminate the source, and then soundproof permanently accordingly, i have had great success on various (albeit lower quality) cars doing this.

Wheel bearings can be difficult to check, sometimes only noisy when weighted, yet when jacked up spin up silently, you can sometimes track them down by increased noise on bends but that can be misleading when an inner bearing is failing.

Edited by gordonbennet on 13/10/2014 at 10:06

BMW 3 Series E90 - Tyre noise - RobJP

Runflats, wearing down, big wheels with low profile tyres.

All adds up to increased noise and harsh ride.

You can help the noise intrusion, sometimes considerably, by soundproofing, usually the noise is coming via the wheelarches, normally the rears..you could try using a couple of old duvets as temporary soundproofing to find/eliminate the source, and then soundproof permanently accordingly, i have had great success on various (albeit lower quality) cars doing this.

Wheel bearings can be difficult to check, sometimes only noisy when weighted, yet when jacked up spin up silently, you can sometimes track them down by increased noise on bends but that can be misleading when an inner bearing is failing.

Agreed. The 'sport plus' also has stiffer suspension, which has less 'give', and is noisier too.Also, check your tyre pressures when cold. They may be a little bit low, and that can make quite difference to noise levels.

After 31k miles, I'd be interested in just how much tread depth you've got left, as well. When I had my old E91, I changed the tyres with 3-4mm depth, and the difference in road noise was extraordinary

BMW 3 Series E90 - Tyre noise - scot22

Without wanting to go too much off the thread, which mid cost range of tyres do people think the quietest. I do not do extreme driving so don't need to spend a fortune. Looking obviously at grip as well. I do read reviews but find posts from direct personal experience very helpful when deciding something.

BMW 3 Series E90 - Tyre noise - gordonbennet

Tyre sizes and car types have a massive influence in noise.

215/60 x 16 size on the Outback i'm having excellent results with Nokian Z, quiet with good ride, and frankly superb wet grip, i would gladly buy again having had good experiences with Nokians generally, how they would fare on a 2WD car in 45 aspect sizes i wouldn't like to say....Nokians handily have tread depths numbers built into the tread, nice little quirk that being able to read the depth so simply.

195/45 x 16 size on the C2 VTS i slung the OE Michelin Pilotes and replaced with Vredestein Sportrac 3 (now superceeded), quieter, better ride and grip and stopped the horrid torque steer that spoiled the car before....always had good experiences with Vreds, as have family.

225/45 x 17 latest Uniroyal Rainsport 3 on the Benz are gripping well, giving a much lower frequency sound and nice feel on the road, too soon to judge serious wet grip but the signs are good....other Uniroyals offer excellent wet grip but not necessarily the most quiet, you seldom go wrong with UNiroyal either IMO.

Federal Formoza FD2 i experimented with on the MB (first ever budget purchase, won't do that again, prejudices confirmed), 'silent' embossed on the sidewall and true enough silent they were, second summer season down to 7mm instant wet wheelspin and and two serious unprovoked broadsides saw them removed and sold on, very quiet but i couldn't recommend them for a RWD car with no TC or ASR and a lead footed old hector at the wheel....maybe on a car with electronic stability control they would be a better bet.

Toyo T1R's on the Benz were the best gripping summer set i've ever had, wet and dry grip fantastic, however noise and crashing ride made them finally unbearable at 4mm.

Son has just put Pirelli P7's on his S60, well impressed, excellent grip, reasonably quiet.

Can't comment on cold weather/winter use for any of the above because i run second sets of wheels with winter tyres fitted for the season.

Obviously my own opinions only abovem and my use and driving may be completely different to others.

Edited by gordonbennet on 13/10/2014 at 12:44

BMW 3 Series E90 - Tyre noise - Ordovices

Check tyre edges for saw-toothing. Often caused by mis alignment (doesn't have to be much) and produces a distinct, speed related droning/hum, especially on worn out and concrete roads.

Run the flat of your hand around the circumference and feel for a "wave" particularly around the edges (especially inner edge for cars with a pronounced negative camber - sporty set ups).

BMW 3 Series E90 - Tyre noise - scot22

Thank you GB for an extremely valuable post. I'll check through them for prices now. What I need is 205/50ZR17. Before I bought the car 3 years ago I wasn't aware of hte effects of tyre size. Thanks to contributors on this forum I am now much better informed about cars. Much appreciated.

BMW 3 Series E90 - Tyre noise - gordonbennet

You're welcome Scot, dashed expensive size that one and i can't fathom out why it should be so, around £80 min for anything mid range decent.

BMW 3 Series E90 - Tyre noise - 72 dudes

Without wanting to go too much off the thread, which mid cost range of tyres do people think the quietest. I do not do extreme driving so don't need to spend a fortune. Looking obviously at grip as well. I do read reviews but find posts from direct personal experience very helpful when deciding something.

My experience - I value ride comfort and low noise above outright grip and longevity.

Goodyears have the best low noise/supple qualities combined with good wet and dry grip. I also like Avons which can be slightly cheaper.

I also tried Barums on the rear of my Volvo S40, and found them quieter than the fairly worn Pirellis which were on there before.

Dunlops also do well for low noise, but I've had too many problems with them years ago to recommend them - either wearing out very quickly or almost impossible to balance.

www.tyre-shopper.co.uk is a good site for reference and comparison, even if you buy them elsewhere.

Sorry to hijack the original post.

BMW 3 Series E90 - Tyre noise - scot22

Thank you for another valuable post, useful link.

I'm the guilty one for digressing from OP.

BMW 3 Series E90 - Tyre noise - daveyjp
My B class has alloys with OEM Michelin Energy MO fit tyres. My wife's A class has steel rims with Pirelli P4s.

For what is virtually the same car the road noise from the Pirelli is far more noticeable than the Michelins.