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Buying advice needed: Family car - thinking ahead - LondonBus

Afternoon all.

I drive a 2002 Nissan Almera Tino, 1.8 petrol. Bought for £6k in 2006 from a car supermarket.

The vehicle has now got 86,000 miles on it. I do about 6,000 miles a year. I'm hoping the Tino will survive another 2-4 years.

I'm aware that despite the car working well (the only gripe is the dead aircon) it won't go forvever. I shall start saving for a replacement vehicle. I'd like advice here if possible.

About me:

43, live in London. Drive mainly short journeys but coupled with the odd long haul run up the M40 to my parents in Oxford. I'd like to long drives in France each year, but my wife isn't keen.

I'm happy to buy a nearly new or 3 year old vehicle which I would run till it falls ot pieces. During the life of the next vehicle I expect to do university runs.

What I want:

* A vehicle which avoids mechanical sillyness (DMF, DPF, cam belt...) which kills me after year 5.

What my wife wants:

* a nice interior.

I'm looking at Toyota Avensis in petrol, manual transmission. They look good, but there's not many around. I was thinking of buying a 1-3 year old vehicle when I have the dough.

What do the panel think?

Buying advice needed: Family car - thinking ahead - 72 dudes

The Avensis would be a good choice, although some have complained about seat comfort and the electronic parking brake (see other Avensis thread).

What about a Nissan Qashqai in 1.6 petrol 2WD form? It would be the previous model but good for comfort, plenty of space and you sit a little higher which might be good around London. Reasonable running and servicing costs.

Visia trim has all the basics including aircon, Acenta was more popular and had (I think) the reversing camera which your Tino may have,

Buying advice needed: Family car - thinking ahead - Avant

A hybrid likke a Toyota Prius might suit you as most of your motoring is in London, and although it's not at its best on motorways, Oxford isn't very far up the M40. If your budget will run to it, a nearly-new Auris hybrid estate would be better if university runs come into the reckoning.

Comfort and a nicer interior - if this is important, you and your wife might be happy with a Volvo V50: very comfortable seats and the interior is a bit more upmarket than the plain but serviceable Toyota.

Buying advice needed: Family car - thinking ahead - LondonBus

The other idea which had come to mind was a 3 year old petrol Lexus IS. That would be £16k for one with c. 40k miles on it. Leather interior.

The Prius worries me because of the cost of replacement batteries. We don't drive in central London - tend to do runs around the Wembley/Harrow area. I'm also not convinced re the boot size.

An estate is too big.

The Tino is the pre-face lift version i.e. no camera although we have aftermarket parking sensors. I'd want any replacement.

I've driven a Qashqai as a hire car in Ireland and loved it - but I don't think its sufficiently premium enough for the boss.... She's just had a Clio while her i10 had its immobiliser fixed under warranty and was going on about the wretched Renault.

I'm not an engineer but is up to me to take an engineering view. If the boss had had her way we would have bought a second hand Scenic in 2006 and not the Tino. And I would have regretted that. The Tino has been excellent. Its has proper Nissan engineering before the French got their hands on the company. The interior is bland though.

Buying advice needed: Family car - thinking ahead - corax

The other idea which had come to mind was a 3 year old petrol Lexus IS. That would be £16k for one with c. 40k miles on it. Leather interior.

The Prius worries me because of the cost of replacement batteries. We don't drive in central London - tend to do runs around the Wembley/Harrow area. I'm also not convinced re the boot size.

A petrol Lexus IS would be a good buy but auto suits the V6 best. The boot isn't the biggest- don't forget that you can't fold the rear seats.

Buying advice needed: Family car - thinking ahead - SteveLee
I'm not an engineer but is up to me to take an engineering view. If the boss had had her way we would have bought a second hand Scenic in 2006 and not the Tino. And I would have regretted that. The Tino has been excellent. Its has proper Nissan engineering before the French got their hands on the company. The interior is bland though.

I'd hate to disappoint you but you'll find the Tino was based on the second generation (N16) Almera - which was the first combined Renault/Nissan platform - so you have the very first product of the Renault/Nissan axis.

Buying advice needed: Family car - thinking ahead - Cyd
An estate is too big.

A somewhat sweeping statement.
It's a shame they don't make them anymore, a 9-3 Wagon is an excellent compact estate. Or have a look at an Octavia estate. Big enough to be practicle (uni runs mentioned) but not too huge for parking or on the drive. V40 and V50 are rather nice IMO.

You mention 4WD. Do you really need it? Most of the time you're just dragging around extra weight and sapping power in the 4WD system. Hardly knee deep in snow 3 months a year round London is it?

Buying advice needed: Family car - thinking ahead - concrete

'm aware that despite the car working well (the only gripe is the dead aircon) it won't go forvever. I shall start saving for a replacement vehicle. I'd like advice here if possible.

Hello Londonbus, have you tried re-gassing the AirCon unit. If you don't use it much the seals dry and shrink and the gas escapes. If you re-gas it then use it at least once a day to keep the seals conditioned.

Then keep the car until it gives up.

Cheers, Concrete.

Buying advice needed: Family car - thinking ahead - LondonBus

We have tried re-gassing it. No dice.

I suspect the compressor is shagged...

Buying advice needed: Family car - thinking ahead - daveyjp
Don't dismiss an Auris estate, they are smaller than the Avensis you are considering. Its a Focus v Mondeo comparison.

A 5 seat MPV may be more suited. C max, Toyota Verso and the like. Plenty of space, but not too long.
Buying advice needed: Family car - thinking ahead - LondonBus

The Auris Tourer has the same external dimensions as the Tino. Not sure if the boss would go for it, but it does look practical...

Buying advice needed: Family car - thinking ahead - Mike H

During the life of the next vehicle I expect to do university runs.

Don't underestimate the amount of space you need for university runs! And if your sprog is in halls, they may need to empty and refill their rooms more than once a year. You might need at least a large hatchback, or one of the SUVs that have been suggested such as the Qashqai.

Buying advice needed: Family car - thinking ahead - LondonBus

Looking on autotrader, how do I differentiate the proper 4WD vehicles from the switchable ones? I can see 4 x 2 - but not 4x4!

Buying advice needed: Family car - thinking ahead - daveyK_UK

citroen berlingo multispace

peugeot partner tepee

fiat doblo

ford tourneo connect

all of them meet your sitting high up & space requirements.

Buying advice needed: Family car - thinking ahead - Bobbin Threadbare

During the life of the next vehicle I expect to do university runs.

Don't underestimate the amount of space you need for university runs! And if your sprog is in halls, they may need to empty and refill their rooms more than once a year. You might need at least a large hatchback, or one of the SUVs that have been suggested such as the Qashqai.

My mum carted my sister's stuff up to uni halls in a Toyota Aygo, this past autumn.

Buying advice needed: Family car - thinking ahead - retgwte

just buy a new dacia sandero...

Buying advice needed: Family car - thinking ahead - Bromptonaut

Endorse Davey's suggestions.

We have two Berlingos. Hers is current model, HDi 115 in XTR trim while mine is previous (Mk2) 1.9 IDI. Both will swallow all a student brings home at end of year - far more than the took at start.

Current model will even take bikes upright and stowed fore/aft provided seats are removed. One seat removed allows one bike but take out two seats and three bikes are possible.

The later model has both DMF and DPF but if you treat them right there's nothing to be too bothered about.

Buying advice needed: Family car - thinking ahead - LondonBus

Hmm.

DPF - That means periodic runs to regen.

I perceive French marques as unreliable. Am I wrong?

Buying advice needed: Family car - thinking ahead - Ed V

The French seem to drive little else, and I'm not aware of their roads being littered with ex-cars.

We build myths IMHO, built up on the back on tiny differences in the likes of JD Power surveys etc.

Good, regular servicing is likely to produce a much larger variation in statistics than whether its a Vorsprung etc or a Pug.

Buying advice needed: Family car - thinking ahead - Cyd
During the life of the next vehicle I expect to do university runs.

I'd agree with Bob, do not underestimate just how much kit you're likely to be karting around. When I was at uni, I had an Avenger. Not a small car and I used to fill it to the gunwalls every term.