Friend has a model x with a failed headrest motor . Sorry, part only available complete with the seat £3k . Yikes . Managed to get a s/h seat with the part for £200
They'd better hope they don't keep the car too long - I've already heard tales from the US where Telsa themselves refuse to maintain older cars of theirs. I'd bet also that they won't be making parts after that 10year period once production ceases, no matter how many cars they've sold.
So many modern things are not modular and you have to spend a fortune to repair what often is a tiny part. Many parts appear to be deliberately (not just one make either) made so that you cannot replace or repair sub-components, especially bit known not to last.
I'd rather pay more at the start for something where it could be easily and cheaply repair (and was highly reliable) and for a LONG time.
Manufacturers (not just cars) behaviour makes a mockery of supposedly better engineered products. They may do more and better whilst the work, but aside from corrosion protection in cars, they don't last any longer and over a lifetime, I'd bet you now end up paying more just to keep buying new things or major components than repairing the small sub-components as used to be the case 40+ years ago.
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I suspect it a headrest motor failed in a BMW, Kia, Mercedes, Volvo, Mazda, Audi or whatever the main dealer solution would be any different to replace the seat.
A quick look on eBay suggests Tesla used parts prices are very, very similar to any other manufacturer.
I had to pay £350 for a used headlight for a 14 year old Volvo last week.
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Our ageing 2 door Merc coupe has electric seat belt presenters, when you close the door the appropriate selt belt is pushed out of the B pillar and when you clip it in the presenting arm then retracts into the pillar.
The only real wear part is the end piece which the belt slides through, the one on our driver's door became brittle and snapped, visited the glass palace and near enough every part of the mechanism has its own part number, the end piece was £16, the car was probably 18 years old at that point.
I think having to replace a complete seat at that frankly ridiculous cost for a head rest motor (pointless tat anyway) just about takes the biscuit, if i was in any mind to consider a battery car Tesla has ruled itself straight out.
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Headrest motor indeed!
Still, these prices are stupid. After the alarm of my £900 headlamp (story to be completed at hopefully much less cost in the near future), I am considering ditching my Karoq and buying something older and cheaper that costs normal money to fix.
I have no objection at all to paying labour, but parts costing crazy money is problematic for me. So are motorised headrests...
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Isn't part of the problem the lack of ability within the workshop? The seat would presumably need dismantling, motor fitted and then reassembled. Replacement seat is probably a connector or two and four bolts.
Your headlamp fix Adampr, would require finding a technician who was capable of using the repair kit. The dealer is on the hook if they cock it up and the headlamp falls out after two weeks.
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A quick check of the Tesla electronic parts catalogue (which, credit to them, is freely available and you don't even need to register for) shows the vast majority of seats parts are available just as any other manufacturer including motors, runners and individual seat parts.
It is just the headrest motor which seems to be absent possibly because it comes integrated into another seat part.
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It seems like this might be r****** anyway as on most model years anyway you CAN replace them:
service.tesla.com/docs/ModelX/ServiceManual/en-us/...l
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I read an article today from 'This is Money' via MSN to the effect that BYD Seals are very difficult to insure, with most insurers refusing to quote due to a lack of availability of spare parts. BYD said they are taking this matter 'very seriously'.
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Headrest motor indeed!
Still, these prices are stupid. After the alarm of my £900 headlamp (story to be completed at hopefully much less cost in the near future), I am considering ditching my Karoq and buying something older and cheaper that costs normal money to fix.
I have no objection at all to paying labour, but parts costing crazy money is problematic for me. So are motorised headrests...
They all have their oddities and downsides.
Just had an MOT failure on the ageing Forester, rear shock absorber leaking.
Not a great issue except these appear to have one off self levelling shockers (i've found these before on Volvos and they cost a fortune) which are made to order in Japan for Subaru and there are no self levelling aftermarket parts available, the self leveller allows weaker springs to be used as they have a spring effect of their own.
So i'm now waiting for two new standard rear shockers to arrive, the stronger springs to suit and new dust covers and bump stops (£250 so far), the other issue is our model is the facelift, the last 3 years of that shape and comes with Xenon lights which have a rheostat sensor attached to the rear suspension, here's hoping i can sort something out if the necessary fittings are missing from the replacement shock absorbers.
The other shocker (hoho) is that the indy we've used for years refused completely to repair the vehicle, we would have left it there for them to fix, the woman behind the desk (whom my wife hasn't laid eyes on before) said to SWMBO they've had trouble with people who've never turned up when they've ordered parts in etc...as if we were total strangers, so one size fits all and all our previous custom means nothing, rather insulting.
I don't think they had time to suss out the parts involved, either way with the attitude they've lost a customer.
I've got to fix it or the car is effectively sc***, the XT (2.5 turbocharged versons) are still worth decent money, they are more or less an Imprezza in a box shaped estate frock.
Rare cars can be a headache, had to replace the exhaust on the Forester, must be 4 years ago, OE is out of the question 4 figure sum, aftermarket mild steel are all wrong despite being sold as suitable, the turbo versions have a 2.5" bore system, all of the aftermarket are 2" only and meant for the more common 2.0 litre NA version, we ended up getting a cat back stainless system custom made and fitted, which incidentally was cheaper than the wrong mild steel system would have been.
Sometimes you can see why people go PCP/lease and effectively rent cars for 3 years and hand them back.
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So i'm now waiting for two new standard rear shockers to arrive, the stronger springs to suit and new dust covers and bump stops (£250 so far), the other issue is our model is the facelift, the last 3 years of that shape and comes with Xenon lights which have a rheostat sensor attached to the rear suspension, here's hoping i can sort something out if the necessary fittings are missing from the replacement shock absorbers.
I had to do that to mine, although thankfully it didn't have the Xenon lights. I was quite pleased with the new set up as there wasn't much change in the ride quality.
There's a lot to be said for owning commonplace cars if you're using them daily. My Subaru, although I enjoyed it, could be a pain when something needed replacing. Some young kid cracked my door mirror hurtling around a blind corner too close, and I ended up sticking a cheap replacement over the top because it was hard to get a genuine one. When I had a windscreen replacement, they did away with the original rubber seal around the edge and put an aftermarket one on. It was constantly coming unstuck. Had I known I would have asked them to give me the original because I couldn't find another. It was a pain anyway, as at high speed, air would force itself through a gap and the sudden high pitched noise would scare the daylights out of me. It was only cosmetic, nothing to do with sealing the windscreen itself.
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I had to do that to mine, although thankfully it didn't have the Xenon lights. I was quite pleased with the new set up as there wasn't much change in the ride quality.
Just sat down having removed both shockers and seperated the springs and shocks, re-using top mounts and rubber bottom spring seat.
Pretty straightforward and no snapped bolts or rounded nuts, no rust on the body at all, hoping everything turns and is correct so can get it back in within the 2 week period.
What kit do you use Corax? i've bought KYB shocks and the necessary stiffer springs as recommended by MrB on the Subaru forum.
Thankfully the Xenon height sensor is nowhere near the shock absorber, though if the car sits slightly higher at the back (possible as the leaking self leveller won't have been doing its job efficiently) then i might have to adjust the length of the sensor.
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What kit do you use Corax? i've bought KYB shocks and the necessary stiffer springs as recommended by MrB on the Subaru forum.
What kit did I use you mean, I sold the car over 3 years ago.
Exactly the same on recommendation of Mr B, a very helpful guy regarding Foresters. I think the original self levelling units were around £500 each.
You should find the KYB's pretty similar to the originals, no nasty surprises.
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What kit did I use you mean, I sold the car over 3 years ago.
Exactly the same on recommendation of Mr B, a very helpful guy regarding Foresters. I think the original self levelling units were around £500 each.
You should find the KYB's pretty similar to the originals, no nasty surprises.
Thats good to know.
Cost doesn't surprise me, Volvo 7 and 9 series estate Boge self levellers were very expensive circa £350 each rings a bell which was a lot of dosh then, luckily i managed to find a pair of new ones on a wreck back when we used to be allowed to prowl breakers yards, the chap obviously didn't know the difference between standard shocks and self levellers because he charged me something like £20 for the pair, result, also lucky enough to find a new pair on the cut off rear end of a Renault Savanna which did me a turn when i had one of those.
Feel sorry for the youngsters in some ways they'll never know the joys of exploring breakers yards, real excitement when you found £££worth of good parts and the chap charged you a tenner, it was the only way young working class chaps and families could keep a car going without reverting to the never never (my dads would have had a fit if we borrowed for anything other than to buy the roof over our heads), having a garage work on your car was almost unheard of.
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GB do you remember Charlie Perkins at Cohens Yard at Kettering?
Spent many enjoyable hours in there . Struck lucky with a Honda Accord fuel pump and Espace headlamp but bought lots of parts just in case and sold the car before o used them.
The other useful tactic was to do a trial run in removing door panels etc before attempting the job on your own car.
But at closing Charlie simply locked the gate and left . So who know how many diy customers were left under cars !
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GB do you remember Charlie Perkins at Cohens Yard at Kettering?
Superb yard that, there were lots of yards in the county back then, never found the ones at Northampton to be much cop but between Welly ( 2 yards), Kettering Irthlingborough (Jupps) and Old Weston the chances were we could find whatever we needed.
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GB it is still possible to explore sc*** yards, and I agree it is a real joy!
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GB it is still possible to explore sc*** yards, and I agree it is a real joy!
Really? i thought it was all internet based these days, not decrying internet, when you have a rare model its a must, managed to drop something and smash a rear light unit on the Forester a few years ago, managed to get the unit for £23 but from an older model so i transferred all the slightly modified wiring over, easy because its screwed into place on the back of the unit...those old fashioned assembly methods are what keep me preferring cars made in Japan.
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Our 2003 Yaris D4D is kept going cheaply with ebay parts.. eg heater hedgehog resistor burned out due to blocked filter (my bad). New about £30. Ebay £10.
Not that it needs much.. Drop link bushes are every 4 years .. but new of course..
I used to sc***yard rummage in Scotland as a student to keep my Austin A30 and then Rover 75 alive.. Exhausts a few £s would last a couple of years... the life of the car! I disliked the ones with alsatians on chains at the gate: they used to hide in the kennels, wait till you came in reach and then scare you to death by leaping on you. Got scars to prove it..
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I used to sc***yard rummage in Scotland as a student to keep my Austin A30 and then Rover 75 alive.. Exhausts a few £s would last a couple of years... the life of the car! I disliked the ones with alsatians on chains at the gate: they used to hide in the kennels, wait till you came in reach and then scare you to death by leaping on you. Got scars to prove it..
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I have had similar. There used to be a sc***yard for Rovers near me. I turned up and couldn't find anyone to ask about parts. There was a house nearby where I thought the owner might be living. Halfway up the path, a doberman launched itself out of a kennel (it had been totally quiet up until now), and snapped to the end of it's chain before it got to me, barking ferociously. Decided to retreat and have another look for the owner in the sc***yard, who finally appeared.
"You didn't go to the house did you? Be very careful of the dog"
Now you tell me...
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Surprised that we all survived the experience.
Remember seeing one customer so desperate to retrieve a part for his Bedford Rascal that he climbed up nine stacked cars and then unbolted the part.
The whole stack was wobbling just like the event in Spain where the locals form a human stack crowned by a small child !
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I've been getting the head off an Austin Devon that's on top of another car before now. Had to chip the ice off first. Now I don't wash the car unless the temperature's in double figures.
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