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Driving at night - barney100

Many folks seem to dislike driving at night, me included. The dual carriageways and motorways are fine but around sunny Basingstoke many white lines have almost disappeared. The white lines are are a great aid at night but when they fade or are non existent and very great care is needed to keep safe. Add to this the supremely bright headlights on some vehicles...and even taillights... it's a combination that driving quite difficult.

Driving at night - gordonbennet

The light wars have been raging for some time now and it's heading to the ridiculous.

Lights peaked in my humble with standard halogen bulbs reflecting through well designed lenses that allowed for a small amount of light scatter beyond the dipped beam limit.

The newer designs are fantastic up uintil the dge of the sharp beam cut off, counter productive because it puts whatever is beyond the beam into absolute impenetrable darkness.

Lights at the back were fairly normal, few had side lights with anything more than a 5w filament bulb and brake lights @ 21w each, now our eyes are seared by ever brighter tail and especially brake lights as each new design seeks to get the edge over the previous incarnation, mine's bigger than yours syndrome, don't get me started on the use of rear fog lights in light rain or mist with 1 mile visibility.

Together with the latest must have ever more ludicrous and ever more camp DRL's this light madness has all but destroyed night vision, even up in the tallest trucks you can't get away from it, if anything its worse because as you follow a line of cars you can see over the roofs on all lanes so are treated to a sea of stupidly bright tail lamps and when anyone even rest their foot on the brake light hundreds of watts of bright lights blind you...people think its makes them safe which couldn't be any further from the truth, because so bright are those light splus being LED's you get the flicker effect which reduces your calculation of rate of deceleration of the vehicle in front...you can't see past that vehicle because the red lights are blinding....don't forget when its raining all those lights get reflected off the polished smooth third world road surfaces too.

Another interesting thing is the number of car drivers who insist of putting their lights up to full beam on dual carriagways when its a truck coming the other way, don't understand the mentality but can understand why some of my colleagues fire up a row of spotlights in answer.

Next we have LED bulbs in traffic lights, so bright are the greens especially that you can't see past them either.

We've reached stupid now, and yes Barney i hate night driving now, so my 4 am starts mean 3 hours of hell which will be nearly 4 hours by the 21st Dec.

Edited by gordonbennet on 27/11/2022 at 13:10

Driving at night - Bolt

We've reached stupid now

I think it will only get worse as LEDs are being designed to give greater light lumens output and run off of lower voltage to make them more efficient, ie every new LED that comes out is brighter than the last. its like a lot things, being made more efficient to use less electricity, possibly to prevent power cuts to electric cars ;-)

Driving at night - Andrew-T

The light wars have been raging for some time now and it's heading to the ridiculous.

Time was when I enjoyed night driving, but since then my eyes have got a few decades older, and traffic several times denser. Now I avoid night driving unless I have no choice.

I doubt that recent generations of powerful lamps were the result of public demand, it seems more likely that makers developed them knowing that they would contribute towards higher NCAP ratings ? And do they, in real life ?

Driving at night - Bolt

makers developed them knowing that they would contribute towards higher NCAP ratings

Maybe if they were on the receiving end of these lights they may think twice about how bright they need to be..

Driving at night - Crickleymal

There is quite a bit of evidence that the blue white light of LEDs is damaging to the eye and a lot more intense than is necessary. And yes I agree that the green of traffic lights is now too bright as well.

A friend uses a yellow polarising pair of glasses at night and says they work well. Unfortunately as a glasses wearer I can't find any to fit my glasses.

Driving at night - FP

I agree whole-heartedly with GB about "lighting overkill" and remember posting about this in the past.

A recent experience which may be relevant. I was fortunate enough to have cataract surgery last summer. As my cataracts worsened over the years I realised that I was fortunate in that I didn't get the spreading and dazzling effect of oncoming lights that often affects people as their eyesight deteriorates. But I did find that I wasn't getting enough information from the darker areas ahead, particularly the nearside of the road.

After surgery and now my eyes have recovered I can cope with night-time driving much better than before. Darker areas are much clearer. All of this is rather surprising to me, because (like some people who have had their cataracts removed) I find that bright sunlight is overwhelming and I need to wear sunglasses on all but the dullest days.

Driving at night - focussed

I have used the same air of Nighthawk yellow tinted glasses for more than 20 years, they take the glare out. They are also useful when the light isn't good in daylight, cloudy dark conditions, put them on and it's like the sun just came out.

Driving at night - De Sisti

Drivers keeping their foot on the brake pedal when stopped at lights (if they do stop and

don't go through them when they're on red) or junctions, especially at night.

Driving at night - Big John

I've hated driving at night for a while - on speaking to my Specsaver optician it seems to be from when I started wearing varifocals. As I was mid term with expensive varifocals I decided on a cheapish set of single vision glasses with a special "coating" which transformed my night driving. Basically the varifocals are a compromise where you get good vision looking straight ahead but slightly fuzzy left/right of centre The single vision lenses are the same at the extremities - they also didn't have reactolite as this can have a residual slight darkening. BUT one side effect for me with the single vision lenses was the dash/satnav was slightly blurry!

Fast forward to a recent eye test and after speaking to the optician he suggested trying the "Superdrive lens" which is a different varifocal designed for driving with a wide field of vision for infinity/mid range focus and a narrower reading focus and a coating that reduces blue/glare etc(LED lights!). The verdict - for driving wow wow wow - perfik. I kept them in the car just for driving. I got another set of normal reactolite varifocals for day to day vision (two for one deal). I had a slight issue one day with my non driving glasses as a screw fell out (Specsaver fixed for free) so I wore my Superdrive all the time theoretically until they were fixed - the problem is I've stuck to the Superdrive - my peripheral vision is way better helping with other things, even watching the TV. Theoretically the reading should be worse but it isn't. The only slight issue I had with them was initially the kitchen worktop seemed to curve up to me when preparing food etc but my brain seems to have got used to them now as that is no longer the case.

Sorry for the long monolog but night driving on my commute with horrible roads had been a big issue for me now substantially mitigated with the Superdrive glasses. I think many different opticians have an equivalent type of lens. Oh and commute further mitigated with my retirement!

Edited by Big John on 27/11/2022 at 20:36

Driving at night - Alby Back
I quite like, maybe even prefer driving at night. Roads tend to be quieter and you get prior warnings of oncoming traffic around corners by the distant glow from their lights. The light from other vehicles doesn’t bother me at all.
Before Brovid I used to regularly drive overnight to various European destinations for work, and rather enjoyed it.
Driving at night - RT
I quite like, maybe even prefer driving at night. Roads tend to be quieter and you get prior warnings of oncoming traffic around corners by the distant glow from their lights. The light from other vehicles doesn’t bother me at all. Before Brovid I used to regularly drive overnight to various European destinations for work, and rather enjoyed it.

I can make much better progress driving overnight - like most people, cataracts developed slowly in my eyes but when the glare from oncoming lights was too noticeable, I had cataract operations on both eyes - very successful as I'm back to having no issues with oncoming lights.

Driving at night - John F
I quite like, maybe even prefer driving at night. .....

I too like driving on country roads at night for the same reasons.......but there is often a problem to see where the road ends and the verge begins. We need more white lines. But my three mile cycle from my village to the town on such narrow roads is hazardous - especially when thoughtless oncoming drivers don't dip their lights for oncoming cyclists. They are clearly too stupid to realise - or just don't care- that on a dark country road a cyclist's eyes get more accustomed to the dark than a head-lit car driver - and so are more easily blinded by the transient bright light.