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Last Gen top Trim vs. New Gen cheapest Trim - Mmarsh1972

Here a question I would like to pose to the class.

If you were given the choice between a top trim car last gen car or entry level new gen car what would you choose

For example a GEN 4 KIA Sportage with all the Bells and Whistles or a Entry Level Gen 5.

Price is roughly the same (more or less) or close enough.

It seems like the TOP TRIM Gen 4 would have all the toys, but those toys would be at the bleeding edge. Conversely if you went with the new car, you might get more up to date specs but fewer of them.

I realize this is rather subjective to the driver and the specific vehicle but do your best...

Last Gen top Trim vs. New Gen cheapest Trim - misar

I realize this is rather subjective to the driver and the specific vehicle but do your best...

Without more specifics it seems a pointless question. For example, some generation changes involve no more than minor cosmetics, others are major mechanical upgrades.

Last Gen top Trim vs. New Gen cheapest Trim - Adampr

For me, it would depend entirely on what the bells and whistles are. I want a DAB radio, electric windows and Aircon. I couldn't care less about lane-keep assist, collision assist or auto parking.

Last Gen top Trim vs. New Gen cheapest Trim - RT

In terms of value-for-money, buying the top trim version of the outgoing model is much better value than bottom trim of the new model - the outgoing model often/usually has extra equipment with no price increase as well as discounts from list to clear the stocks.

Last Gen top Trim vs. New Gen cheapest Trim - movilogo

Usually I prefer last gen top trim. Entry level trims often have poor specs.

Last Gen top Trim vs. New Gen cheapest Trim - Big John

If you were given the choice between a top trim car last gen car or entry level new gen car what would you choose

For me I've always preferred the last gen of a model anyway as hopefully all gremlins are sorted and it's usually way cheaper / end of model deals. I never buy the first of a new model. That strategy has been honed and served me well over the many decades of my career & high mileage commutes - because of this I kind of presume the car would be worthless after my ownership.

Might change going forward as I'm retired now - we shall see.

Edited by Big John on 11/11/2022 at 22:53

Last Gen top Trim vs. New Gen cheapest Trim - expat

I have always gone for bottom level trim. I have done this twice and kept the first one 25 years. I still have the second one at 19 years with no intention of selling while it stays reliable. It used to be that poverty spec vehicles were bought by fleets and were unpopular on the secondhand market. This meant that an 18 month old vehicle would go for half the new price when auctioned. Those days are gone now, mores the pity.

Last Gen top Trim vs. New Gen cheapest Trim - madf

I usually choose top but if it means silly bigger wheels, then mid trim. I do NOT like harsh rides - often the effect of lower profile tyres.

Last Gen top Trim vs. New Gen cheapest Trim - FiestaOwner
It seems like the TOP TRIM Gen 4 would have all the toys, but those toys would be at the bleeding edge. Conversely if you went with the new car, you might get more up to date specs but fewer of them.

I realize this is rather subjective to the driver and the specific vehicle but do your best...

Depends if you would actually use the extra toys. Some of them are more of a hindrance.

You can create 2 lists, like what I have done below. Personally I would favour a car without the following:

  • Keyless entry
  • Electric parking brake
  • Digital display speedo/ rev counter (find them harder to read when glancing down for a split second)
  • Automatic wipers
  • Wide big alloy wheels
  • Lane keeping assist

Would like a car with:

  • Cruise control
  • Electric adjustable and heated door mirrors
  • Automatic dipping interior mirror
  • Electric heated windscreen
  • Sensible sized steel wheels (14/15"!)
  • All Seasons tyres

I would not be able find a car to the above spec. But see which one gets the closest (to your own lists) and which features are the most important to you.

When I was getting my Ibiza I went for the FR, as it used a conventional ignition key. If it hadn't been for this one concern, I would have chosen the Excellence. Due to increasing theft of Keyless cars, this was the deciding factor for me.

Edited by FiestaOwner on 12/11/2022 at 07:11

Last Gen top Trim vs. New Gen cheapest Trim - edlithgow

Neither. Both far too new to be at all attractive.

They will both inevitably be burdened with all sorts of superfluous s***e which I won't want or need and will likely detract from the ownership experience.

Last Gen top Trim vs. New Gen cheapest Trim - Terry W

If intent on a new car, I suspect the choice between new and old generation depends mainly on what has changed.

Minor upgrades, but essentially the same drivetrain, wheels, capacities, suspension etc, and it may be worth going for the old gen if the gizmos are what you want or need.

If the basic vehicle has been materially updated then I would suggest going with the latest. Otherwise you are (a) buying into outdated tech, and (b) come trade in in 3 years (or whenever) the older generation will be truly dated.

Personally I tend towards the lower end of a car range as (a) less to go wrong, (b) largely superfluous to the driving experience, (c) the important bits are functional across an entire range. (d) top of the range is where the manufacturer makes most profit, and where the punter pays the most for unnecessary froth!

Last Gen top Trim vs. New Gen cheapest Trim - John F

For us it was last generation top trim (and powertrain) for Mrs F's Pug 2008. But for me, I think going for a manufacturer's flagship model (used, of course - can't justifiably afford new) is a good bet, as both the materials and assembly workforce are likely to be the best they can get. That's why I bought an old top-of-the-range Audi A8 (especially because I coveted its brilliant advanced lightweight compact W12 engine after seeing a cut-away example displayed on a pole many years ago in Dresden's Glass Factory).

Last Gen top Trim vs. New Gen cheapest Trim - Stackman II

We visited the Classic Car Show at the NEC this weekend.

On display was a Mark 1 Ford Fiesta Popular. It didn't get any more base level than that!

No passenger sun visor, passenger side door mirror, radio or heated rear window.

Vinyl seats with no head rests.

It was our first visit to the show, went with youngest son who is now 28. He was somewhat taken aback at seeing a Peugeot 308 in the show. He said, "When I was learning to drive Peugeot 308's were just cars people had, not classsics!"

Then he thought for a minute and said, "My god, that's what 75% of this show must be like for you !"

Edited by Stackman II on 14/11/2022 at 11:35

Last Gen top Trim vs. New Gen cheapest Trim - Adampr

My mum had a MK2 (C Reg) Fiesta Popular. 950cc engine, no headrests, one mirror etc. We used to drive up and down the country in it, and it was truly awful. Completed rust bucket too. The upgrade to a MK2 Cavalier was quite something.

Last Gen top Trim vs. New Gen cheapest Trim - FiestaOwner

My mum had a MK2 (C Reg) Fiesta Popular. 950cc engine, no headrests, one mirror etc. We used to drive up and down the country in it, and it was truly awful. Completed rust bucket too. The upgrade to a MK2 Cavalier was quite something.

I bought a 2 year old 957 Fiesta Popular in 1987. Mine was a great car. No rust issues with mine, sold it at 8 years old and saw it about locally (still looking smart and tidy) till it was scrapped at 18 years old.

Fair to say that run of the mill cars of this era didn't suffer neglect well. If you didn't touch in stone chips, they rusted quickly. Also had no rear wheel arch liners and only partial front arch liners (behind the front wheels). I hosed under the arches and the wheel arch lips every time I washed the car. My car certainly benefited from this approach.

Yes, by today's standards, the Fiesta Popular was a very basic car. I'm always confused when a car gets criticism for being too basic. If you don't want a basic car, then spend a bit more and get a higher spec one. I knew the spec before I bought it.

The MK2 Cavilier was a cracking car though. Only drove one the once. Very nice car. You're now in rep mobile money though. Cost a lot more than a Fiesta Popular.

Last Gen top Trim vs. New Gen cheapest Trim - John F

Fair to say that run of the mill cars of this era didn't suffer neglect well. If you didn't touch in stone chips, they rusted quickly.

Depends on the car. I think the thin steel of some makes was poor quality with microscopic imperfections from new which bubbled up through the very thin layer(s) of paintwork, especially on basic models. If not attended to immediately, the cancer would spread in tiny tendrils, making it impossible to remove surgically with a small sharp screwdriver. I noticed this on my TR7, but after the first few years and a rejuvenating respray when about 12yrs old, no more rust has appeared.

But some cars of that era did well. We had a basic VW Beetle in the mid '60s. Even after many years as a workhorse it didn't show rust -in stark contrast to the other car, a top trim rotbox Rover 105S. It was always reliable and excellent for snowy Yorkshire hills. Main grouse - lousy heater from the air-cooled engine.