Another vote for the Vitara here, though I would also recommend the new Mokka e. Not as comfy or roomy as the Vitara but a BEV.
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My daughter has a 2017 1.6 Vitara. It runs on 215/15 R17 so that’s a good comfort start. However it’s annoyingly expensive for tyres (£600 for a set of CCs).
There may have been upgrades since 2017 but it’s spacious for a smallish car with exceptional headroom. Her partner is 6’4” and has plenty of room. I have not driven it but as a passenger it’s quite crashy over speed bumps, especially from the rear suspension. You see the bonnet from the front seat which is a novelty. It’s well equipped with DAB, camera etc but still feels a bit budget. I think it’s an ideal young family car with lots of wipeable plastic such as door cards.
Later versions may well be better for ride but it doesn’t feel either particularly comfy or uncomfy. As has been said a good test drive would help decide.
Finally two cars I have seen reviewed well for seat comfort are upper range MINIs and Citroen C3 but I’ve no direct experience of either. And I assume C3 shares engines with Peugeot?
Edited by catsdad on 05/11/2021 at 09:13
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215/15 R17
I do hope you meant 215/55/R17
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Yes indeed Tom. 15s would be very crashy!
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And I assume C3 shares engines with Peugeot?
It does, but for a new purchase I wouldn't be overly concerned about Puretech issues (same for the Puma, which uses the 1.0 Ecoboost), that is what the warranty is for. But ORB also doesn't like the dealer (presumably the same for both makes in his area?), which is a bit trickier to overcome!.
Going back to Puma, am I not right in thinking that you can't have a spare wheel due to the storage box (Megabox?) under the boot floor?. Worth bearing in mind if you don't like being without a proper spare wheel.
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Catsdad Only available with the 1.4 boosterjet hybrid these days. I had the 2017 S version with the 140bhp 1.4 boosterjet non hybrid. Simply superb engine, different league to the 1.6. Faster more economical etc. Firmer suspension but still comfy.
Edited by Ethan Edwards on 05/11/2021 at 11:21
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Catsdad Only available with the 1.4 boosterjet hybrid these days. I had the 2017 S version with the 140bhp 1.4 boosterjet non hybrid. Simply superb engine, different league to the 1.6. Faster more economical etc. Firmer suspension but still comfy.
Had a bit of face lift since 2017, interiors a nice comfortable and quiet place to sit, I agree the engine's a peach, pulls like a train especially when the electric motor kicks in.
Come on ORB anything grabbed your attention yet?
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Will decide tomorrow which offer to accept for the Stonic, loss will me minor, as 2 dealers want it, one saw yesterday, but head honcho off till saturday. offeres more than Cazoo, which is fallback position.
Cazoo offer valid till 17th pm
left field suggestion from a friend of swmbo who just got one was a SSangyong tivoli, but didn't like, dealer offered a Korando foe not much more, ELX 1.5T.
Had a test drive, impressed, impressed with seats, will reurn tomorrow to take a more serious look with swmbo.
NHS affinity 10% discount and a good pcp offer.
Family owned dealership locally and very pleasant to deal with.
Edited by _ORB_ on 05/11/2021 at 12:39
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TBH finding a decent, honest dealership that looks after you is half the battle these days.
Best of luck.
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left field suggestion from a friend of swmbo who just got one was a SSangyong tivoli, but didn't like, dealer offered a Korando foe not much more, ELX 1.5T.
Had a test drive, impressed, impressed with seats, will reurn tomorrow to take a more serious look with swmbo.
NHS affinity 10% discount and a good pcp offer.
Family owned dealership locally and very pleasant to deal with.
7 year 150k mile warranty suggests Ssangyong have confidence in their product!.
Will look forward to reading your thoughts should you go ahead with it ORB
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Ok I'm confused...in a earlier post you said you've sold it, now your saying your playing 2 dealers to see who offers the most??
Why the hell would you even consider a ssangyong, utter rubbish imho, saw one parked in my local supermarket recently, utterly comical!
You have stated in the past that your in the nice position of being to afford practically any car so why are you looking at such a thing?
last post from me on this particular thread....
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Ok I'm confused...in a earlier post you said you've sold it, now your saying your playing 2 dealers to see who offers the most??
Don't worry, I'm confused too and a bit humiliated at making a poor choice.
Throw rotten tomatos now!
Apologies ,As far as Im concerned it's "gone" who gets it will be decided sat AM. as said earlier head honcho at Kia dealer was on leave for 3 days, but one of the guys took the details, (they all know me) and gave a ballpark figure, so am polite enought to wait.
Why the hell would you even consider a ssangyong, utter rubbish imho, saw one parked in my local supermarket recently, utterly comical!. My neighbour is happy with the tivoli..
We are all diifferent and I am not prepared to spend £26.000 + to get a Sportage that is abput to be replaced. Anything left is only Hybrid. Same for the Tuscon.
You have stated in the past that your in the nice position of being to afford practically any car so why are you looking at such a thing?
Swmbo's brother in Canada has 2 mercedes 4wd saloons, one C and 1 E..
She thought i should have one and offered to get me Merc SUV here, till I showed her the list prices in the UK. and the 6 years extra ved.
If I wanted to go totally mad, AN F pacepetrol would do the trick, but certainly not, even new and under warranty...
The new Korando is similar to a Jeep Cherokee in looks and probably a whole lot more reliable.
Remember how some used to laugh at Japanese cars, the Korean cars, the Romanian cars etc etc (Don't even go there with Motorbikes)
I am no badge snob, I won't recommend some cars to friends, but equally I refuse to say "Told you so" afterwards.
Any way net price is 18K and a couple of hundred if i want one.
Will report sat PM.
Edited by _ORB_ on 05/11/2021 at 19:07
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Why the hell would you even consider a ssangyong, utter rubbish imho, saw one parked in my local supermarket recently, utterly comical!. My neighbour is happy with the tivoli.
Don't hold back Paul, just say what you think ;-)
Seriously though, you can't tell whether or not a car is any good by looking at one in a supermarket car park, all you can determine is whether or not you like its looks. Beauty is of course in the eye of the beholder, so while your opinion of the Korando's looks are important to you, maybe not so much to ORB and his good lady!.
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Why the hell would you even consider a ssangyong, utter rubbish imho, saw one parked in my local supermarket recently, utterly comical!. My neighbour is happy with the tivoli.
Don't hold back Paul, just say what you think ;-)
Seriously though, you can't tell whether or not a car is any good by looking at one in a supermarket car park, all you can determine is whether or not you like its looks. Beauty is of course in the eye of the beholder, so while your opinion of the Korando's looks are important to you, maybe not so much to ORB and his good lady!.
I am not offended. Over the years some will have noticed my often left of field choices.
Don't worry paul, Opinions are there to be courteously listened to.
BIG Smiley!
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I was quite interested in a Ssangyong myself but I understand that they are currently in receivership so I have backed off for the time being until their ownership situation is clarified.
Edited by brambobb on 05/11/2021 at 19:22
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I was quite interested in a Ssangyong myself but I understand that they are currently in receivership so I have backed off for the time being until their ownership situation is clarified.
Already noted, but servicing and parts won't be a problem.Look at this.
www.motor-doctor.co.uk/ssangyong/korando/korando-c...i
Ful size steel spare wheel comes from a VW van, identical spec.
Edited by _ORB_ on 05/11/2021 at 19:49
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Ssangyong were in financial difficulty at the start of this year, but about a week ago I read that they have just found a new financial backer.
Perfectly good cars. Their owners rate them highly it seems. What’s not to like?!
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ORB's not the only one to like the Korando. www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ALuagcaDw4
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Currently Ssangyong website shows only 3 models - Tivoli, Korando and Rexton.
It is a shame that they have stopped making Tivoli XLV because it was a unique model of being a small SUV like car with a larger boot.
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Individuality is something to be praised in most things but when it comes to expensive cars it is middle of the road for me. Expect some expense as the car gets older and use common sense to try to mitigate this. Obscure makes such as SsangYong- how do you even say it-in this case probably not staying the course as with Mitsubishi is not a viable way to go
PS with the back and hips starting to fail maybe you should be watching afternoon TV ads for walk in baths, rising armchairs, and Ian Botham with his foot massager etc.. If you can still get in a car may be not yet then!! Best of luck with the sale.
Edited by sammy1 on 05/11/2021 at 20:57
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Individuality is something to be praised in most things but when it comes to expensive cars.
Any mainstream suv this size is a LOT more expensive.
Yes, The Tuscon and 5008 ( to pick 2) are a lot lot more expensive. An equivalent Skoda or SEAT is a lot more too.
Toyota and Honda only hybrids £30000 plus.. Not keen on a Vitara hybrid either... Dacia dashboard yucky.. stepway bizarre..
And lots of cars simply not available now anyways.
I'll be 71 shortly, and the travelling to Portugal and back over 5 days last week has made me realise my age is showing. So, even at the cost of a swap, I'll be better seated for not a lot.
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with the back and hips starting to fail maybe you should be watching afternoon TV ads for walk in baths.
Off subject, but indeed have just got 2 new recliner sofas, higher seating position than before..
Walk in bath, What's a bath?
Have had XL double walk in showers for the past 15 years.
Even at my age, company in the shower is rather nice.
Very big smiley!
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I hope this one's a keeper, ORB.
My MIL had the Tivoli and took a bath at trade in time.
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Ssangyong were in financial difficulty at the start of this year, but about a week ago I read that they have just found a new financial backer. Perfectly good cars. Their owners rate them highly it seems. What’s not to like?!
They are in the process of being sold to Edison Motors:
SsangYong Motor agrees to sale to Edison Motors (koreatimes.co.kr)
Not a company I was aware of but seem they make electric powered buses.
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Most people buy a car to meet particular needs & having had a quick look at the youtube video the reviewer makes a point of how comfortable the Korando's seats are. In terms of looks, l quite like it & the purchase price is attractive.
There are, again according to the review, a number of down sides: low speed ride, economy & some issues with the 1.5T petrol (auto) combo, but on the whole looks a good package.
In terms of spending money on a car, there's many a folk able to spend, just choose not to, especially during these times.
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Most people buy a car to meet particular needs & having had a quick look at the youtube video the reviewer makes a point of how comfortable the Korando's seats are. In terms of looks, l quite like it & the purchase price is attractive.
There are, again according to the review, a number of down sides: low speed ride, economy & some issues with the 1.5T petrol (auto) combo, but on the whole looks a good package.
In terms of spending money on a car, there's many a folk able to spend, just choose not to, especially during these times.
I did notice the same potential problems re the ride on video reviews. But most reviews seem to be done on top of the range cars which will invariably have the biggest wheel on the lowest profile tyre. So it is likely a lower spec car on smaller alloys with taller tyres, the ride will be much more settled.
But it is a shame that Ssangyong seem to have deliberately set it up to be stiff so it handles better. Nowt wrong with a softer ride and a bit of body roll, is it really such a hardship having to slow down a bit for corners?
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