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Did I gt let off or did I get a verbal NIP - test_a

Hi,

Was pulled over after doing a 50 in a 30. They told me that at that speed it wouldn't be a fixed penalty notice but a summon to court.

He then proceeded to say that he is "not here to ruin my night" and that he wouldn't give me a ticket this time.

He took my driving license but I am not sure if he took down any details before he gave it back to me.

Probably a stupid question but I think I got let off with a warning, or should I expect a summons?

Did I gt let off or did I get a verbal NIP - alan1302

Sounds like you were let off

Did I gt let off or did I get a verbal NIP - Middleman

Yes it does. However you will have to wait a little over six months to be sure. They have six months from the date of the offence to begin court action (usually notifying the driver by way of a "Single Justice Procedure Notice"). Many areas take all of that time and if they do so it will be a short time after that when you receive your SJPN.

Did I gt let off or did I get a verbal NIP - concrete

It sounds like the officer was using his discretion and simply warned you. Very fortunate for you met a kindly soul, very rare indeed. If he did not state that he would be reporting you for the offence then I think you are clear. Also if he did not give you a notice to produce your licence and insurance at a police station it bodes well for you. Fingers crossed for a while and stop being a naughty boy and breaking the law.

Cheers Concrete

Did I gt let off or did I get a verbal NIP - gordonbennet

You must have passed the 'attitude test', well done.

I can not understand some people, some recent cases in the media, who immediately jump to hostility when pulled over by plod...the last time i was pulled over was returning home from work in the wee small hours, was going to be passing by a notorious itinerant camp, plod pulled to check my 4x4 was indeed mine, soon as i gave my name and address they bade me a cheery goodnight, proper policing that.

Hostility might work out for some if there's some woke fast track commander itching to air their progressive credentials and apologise publicly for the real front line old bill actually doing what we pay them for, but for the average person when the country is normal (and if normality ever returns) getting aggessive with the old bill doesn't usually work out all that well.

I don't believe the police generally dream up alternative offences if they've dropped a clanger.

Did I gt let off or did I get a verbal NIP - Gerry Sanderson

Well said Gordon. Thanks

Dvd

Did I gt let off or did I get a verbal NIP - Bromptonaut

I can not understand some people, some recent cases in the media, who immediately jump to hostility when pulled over by plod...

GB, as white people, outside of London and getting stopped once in a blue moon then, for you and me, you're quite right. I was last stopped was 15+ years ago on the outskirts of Chester. I suspect it was a 'practice' pull for the benefit of a new recruit. Few questions about where we were from/too (no doubt he'd already done a registration check on the car), probably a sniff for booze - there was none and all sorted. Told us we'd been stopped as we were 'weaving'. C&B I think. The only previous stop before the Chester one was at least 20 years earlier, Feb/March 1982, in Hendon. On that occasion it was a Sealed Beam Unit on my Mini that was showing side only. I was ticked off and given a 'producer'.

OTOH there is undoubtedly a problem with the Met, and possibly other city forces disproportionately stopping black people so that individuals are pulled up over and over again. Understandable if that results in anger and hostility. The Linford Christie trained athlete in the news recently is a case in point as is the Labour MP and one of their own officers.....

When my daughter was at Uni one of her lecturers was black; this subject came up.

He asked a lecture hall of 19/20 year olds to raise their hands if they could drive. I then said OK, leave it up if you've ever been stopped while driving. Pretty much every hand went down. He could list a dozen plus stops.

I'm also slightly dubious that alternative offences are never used. There are certainly accounts from people on demonstrations to suggest such things DO happen.

Edited by Bromptonaut on 22/08/2020 at 15:57

Did I gt let off or did I get a verbal NIP - Bilboman

I'm curious about the (alleged) profiling going on, and I have to wonder if the driver's skin colour is the first aspect a police officer would "scan", rather than the car being driven. Logically, a top-end German car would attract attention from f***her away and far earlier than its driver. A colleague of mine once remarked, "I'm black and I drive a white Toyota and I never get stopped!"

Did I gt let off or did I get a verbal NIP - concrete

Without wishing to get too political, which the reported methods of policing are becoming, there are several factors at play. Factors which the 'popular press' seem to ignore. Why let mitigating factors get in the way of salacious story? I have been pulled on occasion. One was a check for stolen turkeys around christmas time, also though it was a sneaky breathalyser try on in the days when the police needed a valid reason to stop you. Never a problem, don't drink and drive and because my conscience is clear I don't mind submitting to a check. My brother and cousin were police officers, also many friends too. My daughter is currently a serving police officer and they deny any such policy of targeting anyone purely on skin colour. I suppose if the area being policed has a majority of black and asian people then the majority of stops will involve them. Not excusing any police force from the odd bad apple or rogue unit but street crime being the plague it is surely street stops have become the norm. Thankfully we don't live in a city so it is not a problem for us, but we used to and the police presence made us feel safer. Despite the conspiracy theorists and so called liberationists I would gladly carry an ID card and be willing to show it on demand. I feel the same about DNA. I would happily give a sample to data base to rule me out of any crime.

Cheers Concrete

Did I gt let off or did I get a verbal NIP - alan1302

My daughter is currently a serving police officer and they deny any such policy of targeting anyone purely on skin colour.

I don't believe people are saying the police have a policy to stop people based on skin colour, just that if you are black/Asian then you are more likely to be stopped.

Did I gt let off or did I get a verbal NIP - bathtub tom

I don't believe people are saying the police have a policy to stop people based on skin colour, just that if you are black/Asian then you are more likely to be stopped.

Who are most likely to be the victims and perpetrators of knife and gun crimes?

Did I gt let off or did I get a verbal NIP - alan1302

I don't believe people are saying the police have a policy to stop people based on skin colour, just that if you are black/Asian then you are more likely to be stopped.

Who are most likely to be the victims and perpetrators of knife and gun crimes?

I don't know

Did I gt let off or did I get a verbal NIP - galileo

I don't believe people are saying the police have a policy to stop people based on skin colour, just that if you are black/Asian then you are more likely to be stopped.

Who are most likely to be the victims and perpetrators of knife and gun crimes?

I don't know

If you really don't know (which most people have known for years) here is a link to the government statistics.

tinyurl.com/y2q

Did I gt let off or did I get a verbal NIP - concrete

If you really don't know (which most people have known for years) here is a link to the government statistics.

tinyurl.com/y2q

I really think it not possible to base any rational decision on bare statistics. I have had enough of them thrown at me in my fairly long life to know they need quantifying. If these statistics were regionally adjusted to take into account various ethnic groups, demography etc then I would be more inclined to give them some credence. It is all well and good to record events for the production of analysis not bare statistical figures. I have no answers to this problem, perceived or not, the press flog it to death and the issue becomes distorted. Politicians from every form of government from local to national, trade unions and other groups are not above using their version of the statistics to make a point. Do not rely on them as pure fact. We are all aware of local anomalies with many issues being dealt with according to local need or policy. One size fits all is not a good fit for most.

Interesting point though and some thoughtful insight that seems to escape the powers that be on this issue.

Cheers Concrete