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Toyota Landcruiser 120 series - Toyota component dies & charging twin batteries. - gordonbennet

Finished work Sat afternoon and when i started my car it seemed a bit slower than usual turning over, thought nothing more of it, Sun morning batteries almost flat, but she did fire up on the jump pack which ruled out starter failure.

It was then i noticed no ignition lamp showing at all, most likely alternator failure, so jacked the old girl up and got the offending item off, its easier going in from the side after removing the osf wheel.

Nipped round the auto electrician this morning with it, wondered if it was fixable, he had a look and noticed (i didn't) a slight crack in the main body, which hadn't affected the operation till now but wouldn't fix itself so a recon was agreed on, Lucas recon unit in my sweaty hand couple of hours later, £126 incl which wasn't too bad as a new Denso unit is knocking on the door of £300 when i looked them up last night.

All fixed now i've got ignition light when it supposed to and all charging fine, i've run Toyota 4x4's for years and that's the first major failure i can recall apart form the odd bulb.

Twin batteries on these vehicles, wired in parallel so still 12v starting, and yes i did charge them both fully so they have an equal starting charge...common sense tells me it would not do either battery any good if you only charged one, but if i had only charged one battery would it lead to one or other of the two failing before it's natural time or would they equalise without any issues?

Edited by gordonbennet on 29/04/2019 at 18:59

Toyota Landcruiser 120 series - Toyota component dies & charging twin batteries. - oldroverboy.

Shock Horror....

GB had to spend money...

(well done!

:-)

Toyota Landcruiser 120 series - Toyota component dies & charging twin batteries. - Chris M

I don't get the impression GB is averse to spending his hard earned, it's just he normally spends it on 20 litre drums of oil and rust proofing products.

Toyota Landcruiser 120 series - Toyota component dies & charging twin batteries. - focussed

Batteries in parallel permanently connected can have strange characteristics, a weaker cell takes more charge, gasses more, etc but presumably BigT know what they are doing.

Personally from my marine experience I would say that it is important the the two batteries connected in parallel are exactly the same same make, type, capacity etc.

The rule of thumb with marine batteries and alternators, where the customer expectation is that the poor little alternator is capable of charging any amount of 12 volt batteries connected in parallel is:-

The batteries charged by the alternator should not exceed in amp hour capacity twice the amp output of the alternator - to protect the alternator.

But don't forget, that alternator is sweating it's b@lls off working in a hot engine space, not in the relative cool of underbonnet fresh air.

So for an 80 amp alternator - two 80 amp batteries in parallel maximum.

But I have no idea what BigT do with their system or how they wire it!

Toyota Landcruiser 120 series - Toyota component dies & charging twin batteries. - gordonbennet

Ha, yes just ordered another 20 litre drum of petrol engine oil, running low now and two daughter cars coming in for service shortly..:-) i also slipped another oil change into the Forester this afternoon, which takes minutes now and is clean and easy as the sump is adorned with a Fumoto quick drain valve.

Handy info there Focussed, thankyou, the batteries were changed for two new Toyota units (they generally come in twos, sided so mirror image posts) few months before i bought it so they should be ok for a long time yet, i wouldn't consider changing only one, it would feel like changing the brake pads on one side only.

The alternator on these is i believe a 85A unit but some on the LC forum seem to think they are 110A, i do not know maybe the details are in the handbook which is thorough on such things, batteries are i believe both 70ah so even if its the lower output alt still well within what you recommend.

Luckily i'm on holiday this week, so it was the correct week for it to go wrong if it had to.

Edited by gordonbennet on 29/04/2019 at 21:36