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Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - barney100

Government investigation has found we have some of the cheapest fuel in europe.........thats why we pay more than most of them!! Drink anyone?

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - swtech999
We probably do have the cheepest fuel, until all the tax is added on
Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - Ethan Edwards

You missed the important bit.

We in the UK have the cheapest fuel in europe BEFORE Tax and Duty and VAT and Tax on the Tax etc etc etc...here in after referred to as the 'Gubbermints' take.

Pre Gubbermint we do have the cheapest fuel...post Gubbermint we do NOT.

I wonder if say a loaf of sliced bread was taxed in the same was as a litre of unleaded the loaf would not cost say a about a pound but closer to two pounds seventy eight.

Thats why I think we should have the split itemised on every receipt. Just to keep HMG honest.

So for under 53p a litre the 'evil' oil companies...find the oil, drill for it, extract it, refine it, ship it to the pump and sell it, still managing to make a good profit. For the Gubbermints 79.9p they manage to ...er...poke their noses into other peoples wars? French poodle anyone? Spend it on keeping hundreds of thousands of Wayne and Waynetta's in Fags n Beer? I dunno..odds are the Gubbbermint continues to hose our cash into a bottomless pit. It's what they do.

Edited by Ethan Edwards on 30/01/2013 at 13:22

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - thunderbird

A quick Google found this. We are not the most expensive but certainly not the cheapest in Europe.

http://www.fuel-prices-europe.info/

I'm off the Kuwait, diesel €0.145 a litre.

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - Ethan Edwards

Your link doesn't seem to have pre tax prices...does it?

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - thunderbird

Your link doesn't seem to have pre tax prices...does it?

I don't pay for petrol before tax thus the pre-tax price is pointless. This table is a direct comparrison of what the punter actually pays.

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - Collos25

The station over the road from my house in Dresden diesel is 143.9cents petrol is 154.9cents E10 150.9 cents cheapest fuel in Dresen is 140.9cents diesel and 152.9cents for petrol.Divide by todays exchange rate 1.13 = 127.3pence for diesel and petrol 135.3pence.

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - barney100

Precisely Ethan, thats the rub. HMG makes a fortune from fuel. It's not hard to work out that everything that goes by road has it's price hiked by the fuel cost increases.

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - RT

High tax countries always seem to have the lowest pre-tax price - Denmark has the lowest pre-tax price for cars in Europe because the tax is so high and they end up with the most expensive cars after tax, just like our fuel.

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - madf

We have high taxes to pay for my pension and benefits.

Thanks suckers:-)

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - Collos25

UK pensions are abysmal compared with many counties in Europe a basic German pension is almost double a UK pension of 142ukps.My wive has a pension of over 1200€ and she is only 51 years old.meanwhile I have the UK pension plus my private pension fund, Italien,Greek,Spanish,French,Dutch,Danish,Swedish,Norwegian,pensions are far better for what ever reason.

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - Bobbin Threadbare

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21238363

Have a little play with this!

I put my standard fill-up in (using today's price for unleaded - I paid 132.9ppl at Texaco this morning to fill my tank) and if I was Venezuelan, I would have paid £52.49 less than my £53.16 today!

It looks like where I live is reasonable for fuel - supermarket fuel is around the 128ppl mark and garages are charging about 131ppl.

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - madf

"UK pensions are abysmal compared with many counties in Europe"

Yes.. I accept taht but the benefits are crazily high..

See Housing benefit...

And you only need to breathe to qualify.

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - jamie745

Can you define 'crazily high' please? Do you actually have any facts/numbers or just an article from the Daily Mail?

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - madf

Can you define 'crazily high' please? Do you actually have any facts/numbers or just an article from the Daily Mail?

rofl.. question statemnet by referring to DM... as if everything they say is lies!

Read this article from the Daily Mail err sorry - the Guardian - that well known Tory supporting paper which thinks the Governrment are right on everything they do:-)

tinyurl.com/77u3dyy

"

Housing benefit is out of control,"

Try reading this

tinyurl.com/a94gma4

"

Housing benefit spending by councils rose to £18.5bn between 2009/10 and 2010/11.

The government’s local authority revenue expenditure and financing figures, published at the end of August, showed housing benefit spending grew by £1.3bn in that time.

Housing benefit spending increased by 7.2 per cent, the largest rise of the spending areas measured by the report. Education saw the second-largest growth in spending with a 2.1 per cent rise.

Housing benefit was the third largest area of council spending after education and social care.

"

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - Collos25

"UK pensions are abysmal compared with many counties in Europe"

Yes.. I accept taht but the benefits are crazily high..

See Housing benefit...

And you only need to breathe to qualify.

Until you try to get them tell the many families who are being turned out of their houses because of the limit on housing benefit.Many people have not been so lucky in live we are supposed to live in a caring society people who have not been so unlucky in life people who suffer illness and pensioners are treated as some sort of pyrrhia to be beaten at will.

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - RT

The limit on housing benefit will/is stopping couples taking up a high cost / low rent 4-bedroomed when their family has long since grown up, got houses of their own and producing grandkids.

All power to the authority's elbow as this will release bigger properties for younger families.

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - Dutchie

My wife's pension is 400 pound a month after paying a full stamp for 45 years.

On another subject David Cameron said we should be proud of our foodbanks well there you go.

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - Mr Fox

Average Fuel Prices today in Europe: - You decide EUROS prices shown below

95 UL Diesel
Austria
€ 1.34 € 1.29 Belgium € 1.47 € 1.33 Czech Rep € 1.46 € 1.40 Denmark € 1.64 € 1.45 France € 1.58 € 1.36 Germany € 1.58 € 1.42 Hungary € 1.41 € 1.39 Ireland € 1.53 € 1.46 Italy € 1.83 € 1.77 Latvia € 1.38 € 1.31 Lux € 1.35 € 1.24 N L € 1.69 € 1.40 Norway € 1.88 € 1.75 Poland € 1.34 € 1.32 Portugal € 1.52 € 1.44 Slovakia € 1.52 € 1.41 Slovenia € 1.48 € 1.39 Spain € 1.43 € 1.37 Sweden € 1.62 € 1.62 SWITZ € 1.37 € 1.45 UK € 1.53 € 1.62

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - Smileyman

Probably based on last month's exchange rate .... sterling has dropped like a stone in value over the past few weeks, these prices are bound to be out of date

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - jamie745

The limit on housing benefit will/is stopping couples taking up a high cost / low rent 4-bedroomed when their family has long since grown up, got houses of their own and producing grandkids.

All power to the authority's elbow as this will release bigger properties for younger families.

Well that's what the Government say and is what the Daily Telegraph certainly laud, but as is the way with these things that's rarely going to be what actually happens. I've met people who are going to be forced out of their homes this year despite the Council not even being able to answer simple questions about the scheme - because the Coalition hasn't thought it through and can't answer simple questions.

If you think kicking the odd disabled person out of their two-up-two-down will sort out the housing stock crisis then you're sadly mistaken. If you think it'll free up bigger properties for younger families then you're way off base. What the Government won't tell you (but I will) is the UK needs to build 200 homes every day just to meet the demands of immigration into Britain. That's before any of us have anywhere to live.

Officially 20% of all social housing in London is occupied by foreign nationals but considering there's a massive data hole with the nationality of occupant not listed on many properties, it's likely the figure is even higher. Add that to Boris Johnson stating an amnesty for 500,000 illegal immigrants in London is 'unavoidable' and we have a serious problem on our hands.

Contrary to your Daily Mail subscriptions protestations, the country is not full of people getting hugely wealthy off the welfare state living lives of luxury in 10 bedroomed Kensington mansions. The reality is there just aren't enough homes in the country due to the UK's membership of the European Union and unlimited work permit immigration system. Kicking the odd disabled person out of a small house to 'solve' such a problem is an insult.

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - Collos25

Well put Jamie

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - RT

Contrary to your Daily Mail subscriptions protestations, the country is not full of people getting hugely wealthy off the welfare state living lives of luxury in 10 bedroomed Kensington mansions. The reality is there just aren't enough homes in the country due to the UK's membership of the European Union and unlimited work permit immigration system. Kicking the odd disabled person out of a small house to 'solve' such a problem is an insult.

Cut the rant, I don't read any newspapers!

We have extended family members, a couple deservedly on benefits, who are resisting moving out of their 4-bedroomed social housing where they rattle around on their own and seem oblivious that all 4 of their grown-up children are struggling with space in their own over-crowded homes because of ever-increasing numbers of the couple's grandchildren.

Nothing to do with mansions - all to do with bigger than average social housing.

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - madf

The big problems for everyone - on benefits or not - are:

immigration increasing demand for housing

Social house building collapsed to virtually nil after 1999.

High demand for housing has meant house prices have kept rising.

Housing beenfits actally keep house rentals high

A recent study in shows rental returns are best where the Housing Benfits is highest

tinyurl.com/axcgw32

"Figures from Zoopla.co.uk, the property search website, show that the cities offering the

best rental returns are Liverpool, Hull, Coventry and Middlesbrough. Reflecting the

widening of the North-South divide, house price falls in these locations have been deeper

than the average; there are also more homeowners struggling with their mortgage

repayments.

In those regions, mostly in London and the South East, where house prices have

remained more resilient, rental yields are lower."

Edited by madf on 31/01/2013 at 14:29

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - Collos25

The big problems for everyone - on benefits or not - are:

immigration increasing demand for housing

Social house building collapsed to virtually nil after 1999.

High demand for housing has meant house prices have kept rising.

Housing beenfits actally keep house rentals high

A recent study in shows rental returns are best where the Housing Benfits is highest

tinyurl.com/axcgw32

"Figures from Zoopla.co.uk, the property search website, show that the cities offering the

best rental returns are Liverpool, Hull, Coventry and Middlesbrough. Reflecting the

widening of the North-South divide, house price falls in these locations have been deeper

than the average; there are also more homeowners struggling with their mortgage

repayments.

In those regions, mostly in London and the South East, where house prices have

remained more resilient, rental yields are lower."

Must remember that South east rentals are lower than the North east .

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - madf

"Must remember that South east rentals are lower than the North east ."

Rental yields are lower..

i.e income divided by property valuation...

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - jamie745

We have extended family members, a couple deservedly on benefits, who are resisting moving out of their 4-bedroomed social housing where they rattle around on their own and seem oblivious that all 4 of their grown-up children are struggling with space in their own over-crowded homes because of ever-increasing numbers of the couple's grandchildren.

The main reason their four grown-up children are struggling for space is because the UK's housing stock is too low, the population is too high, house prices are still being kept artificially high, mortgages are harder than ever to obtain and wages are being depressed.

I should've clarified the 200 a day comment; I meant the UK has to build 200 homes a day more than it's currently building just to meet the demand created by immigration into Britain. I have no opposition to skilled people who will benefit the UK coming here to work, nor am I opposed to a sensible, time limited work permit scheme for foreign workers.

However I don't think the population of Reading arriving in the UK every 12 months is sustainable.

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - RT
the UK's housing stock is too low, the population is too high,

The second part is the reason for the first.

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - Collos25
the UK's housing stock is too low, the population is too high,

The second part is the reason for the first.

When your in a hole stop digging.Jamie is running rings around you.

Edited by Collos25 on 31/01/2013 at 21:09

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - RT
the UK's housing stock is too low, the population is too high,

The second part is the reason for the first.

When your in a hole stop digging.Jamie is running rings around you.

Or he's going round in circles.

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - Collos25

Your beaten admit it.

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - jamie745
the UK's housing stock is too low, the population is too high,

The second part is the reason for the first.

Well it's fair to say they're linked. Look those Census figures a few weeks ago even shocked me and I've been 'scaremongering' by claiming 2-3 million have come here in the last decade and it turns out it's even more than that.

Never mind scare stories of the population hitting 70 million by 2020, according to vaguely senior supermarket manager I was talking to recently we're already there. The supermarkets know how much food they're selling and they're selling enough for a 70m population. Hopefully that just means we're all really fat.

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - madf

"The supermarkets know how much food they're selling and they're selling enough for a 70m population. Hopefully that just means we're all really fat."

Speak for yourself My BMI is 23.. What's yours?

Edited by madf on 01/02/2013 at 19:33

Cheapest fuel in Europe we have? - jamie745

I have no idea. Is that the formula which makes rugby players out to be clinically obese?