What is life like with your car? Let us know and win £500 in John Lewis vouchers | No thanks
Blocked in by surly neighbour - rights and wrongs? - Teapot42

Parking where I live is at a bit of a premium - there is space on the street for those who live here but there are a few people on neighbouring streets either have far too many cars for the house or don't fancy parking on a busy road so always park on my street, meaning sometimes there isn't a free space available.

I live in the end of the terrace and there is a passageway down the side. This technically belongs to the houses of the street that back on to it (at right angles), in small slabs so no one house owns much of it. We all have a right of access across this as it is the only way to the back of our houses.

A number of years back I checked with the council and was told it was Ok to park there if there were no other options but not to leave a car unattended there and to move it ASAP when a space became available.

I came in tonight to find no spaces available so I parked down the side. I was just unloading the car when the neighbour from further down the adjoining street pulled up behind me and started demanding I move as I was blocking his access. He has started recently parking on the wasteland behind his house.

I asked him where I was supposed to park if I did move, at which point he just pulled up behind me, turned the engine off, got out and walked away. He came back after a few minutes to get something from his car but I was unable to engage him in serious discussion, he seemed to be saying that as I was blocking his access he would block me in.

Now, I'm not sure he has the right to park where he does. Beside the house it is metalled but beyond there is is just grass. He has to drive over several other people's land to get to the back of his house and he is making a right mess of the grass doing so. Also, there are drains under this land, not sure if they will have been built to take the weight of a car / van.

I can't argue about the land ownership - it does belong to him. However, does this give a right for him to demand we move from land we also have access over just to he can park there, meaning we then lose the ability to use the land as we would be blocking him in?

Subsequently to that, I now of course can't get my car out.... I don't actually know where he lives - it is one of three houses so the only way to find out is to potentially disturb two other people, and from his attitude - not really giving me much chance to move which I would have done as I need to use the car tonight - I doubt he'd oblige anyway.

Am I stuck, or is he breaking any law where I might be able to get him moved?

Further on, what can and can't each of us do? I often use the passageway to load my car from the back of my house. If I'm doing this and he comes up and blocks me in again, can I do anything? Or am I not allowed to do this as it blocks his access which seems to he his take on it?

He claims the reason he parks at the back is that his (company) van insurance says he parks off-road at night...

Blocked in by surly neighbour - rights and wrongs? - bathtub tom

I've lived in similar sounding properties. It would seem you're blocking his access and you are therefore in the wrong. You cannot justifiably claim 'there's nowhere else to park'. If you haven't got space to park, then you shouldn't have bought the house or own a car.

Blocked in by surly neighbour - rights and wrongs? - Teapot42

That is the sort of argument that leads nowhere. If everyone around here only had one car per house there would be space. It is because there are several people with 2 and a few with 3 or more that leads to there not being much space. Should I sell my car because others want multiple cars per house?

I'd also raise the point of who has the right to block what. Each house in the street owns some land so whoever parks is blocking someone.

The main question though is whether he has the right to block me in without giving me a decent opportunity to move. Considering we had been told by the council we could park there I wasn't going to move without it being explained why - he didn't even attempt to do this. It was only when he came back that the subject of him not being insured to park on the road cropped up and he didn't stop around long enough to let me offer to move at that stage. As it was, he just seemed to be ordering give up my parking space so he could park.

As an aside, when I bought the house, part of the garden had been coverted in to a parking space. I had to give up using it when the council bin men used to regularly block access to the passageway on bin day, meaning I couldn't get to work. I've now converted it in to part of the garden so can't start reusing it which is a shame as it would solve my parking problem at least.

Blocked in by surly neighbour - rights and wrongs? - tony g
( Now, I'm not sure he has the right to park where he does. Beside the house it is metalled but beyond there is is just grass. He has to drive over several other people's land to get to the back of his house and he is making a right mess of the grass doing so. Also, there are drains under this land, not sure if they will have been built to take the weight of a car / van. )

Hi teapot I don't think any of the above concerns you or is relevant to your problem .

The issues here are that you're not entitled to block access for your neighbour to his property.The fact that you cannot park on the street is irrelevant .

Equally if your neighbour blocks your vehicle so you're unable to use it ,he's guilty on two counts ,causing an obstruction and conduct likely to lead to a breach of the peace .

I would get your local police officers to have a word with him .

Tony g
Blocked in by surly neighbour - rights and wrongs? - 1litregolfeater

This message is so replete of Sigmund Freud that I am unable to make any diagnosis on a motoring level.

What feelings do you have for your neighbour and when did he first mention your passageway?

Blocked in by surly neighbour - rights and wrongs? - tony g
One to many glasses of red wine ,looking at the time of this post .

It's the only possible excuse .
Blocked in by surly neighbour - rights and wrongs? - concrete

This message is so replete of Sigmund Freud that I am unable to make any diagnosis on a motoring level.

What feelings do you have for your neighbour and when did he first mention your passageway?

This is a first. How many times have the words Sigmund Freud, diagnosis and passageway ever being uttered in a parking dispute? Only in the Back Room. We're all doomed!!

Blocked in by surly neighbour - rights and wrongs? - Butterfly
We learnt the hard way, never ever buy a house with shared access! At our last house we were the last house and owned the drive which 4 neighbours had access across. Apart from one, they were all g##ts and continually blocked us in regardless of how many times we asked them nicely to keep the access clear. The police won't want to help as its a civil matter but the best thing to do is check the deeds and land registry to see who owns what.