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Zafira1.8 - Red light offences - suezi
Can anybody advice me if I should go to court , I crossed the white stop line with all four tyres because I diden't want to do an emergency stop. I did not continue on red but stopped , I only continued on green got cought on camara . Have I committed an offence anyway or is it worth going to courte with mittigating circumstance. Dose anyone know what I should do realy don,t want the points .?
Zafira1.8 - Red light offences - RT
Can anybody advice me if I should go to court , I crossed the white stop line with all four tyres because I diden't want to do an emergency stop. I did not continue on red but stopped , I only continued on green got cought on camara . Have I committed an offence anyway or is it worth going to courte with mittigating circumstance. Dose anyone know what I should do realy don,t want the points .?

Have you had a NIP or notice of prosecution?

If it results in a fixed penalty notice, take the offer and pay it - technically you've crossed the line on red so there are no mitigating circumstances and a court appearance will cost more!

Zafira1.8 - Red light offences - Bromptonaut

Amber means stop but a defence that it was unsafe to stop is available. Failure to stop b4 the line on red is an absolute offence.

Would be interesting to know why OP missed their 'cue' on amber but there's no defence.

Zafira1.8 - Red light offences - bonzo dog

Interesting because I was in a similar situation a few days ago (hope I don't get proecuted!).

Following a long line of slow traffic, directly behind a bus, I crossed a green light but then stopped as going on further would have meant entering a box junction.

I wouldn't have been able to clear the box as the bus had stopped just the other side of it. Then the lights changed.

I couldn't see the box prior to passing the lights due to the bus obstructing my vison.

Was I in the wrong waiting on the "wrong side of" the lights?

Zafira1.8 - Red light offences - RT
Was I in the wrong waiting on the "wrong side of" the lights?

I believe that's quite legal - the cameras should take at least 2 pictures, one as the green goes to amber and the other on red - to identify exactly this situation.

Zafira1.8 - Red light offences - Peter D

The is not correct. If any part of your vehicle crosses the white line when the red light is on, that's 3 plus and minus 0.25 seconds, after the amber light came on, then the camera triggers and takes 2 photo's 1 second apart. You say "I diden't want to do an emergency stop." Why not, the light was red why not stop.

You may be offered a Drivers Awareness Course and no points. Regards Peter

Edited by Peter D on 28/06/2012 at 10:15

Zafira1.8 - Red light offences - RT

The is not correct. If any part of your vehicle crosses the white line when the red light is on, that's 3 plus and minus 0.25 seconds, after the amber light came on, then the camera triggers and takes 2 photo's 1 second apart. You say "I diden't want to do an emergency stop." Why not, the light was red why not stop.

You may be offered a Drivers Awareness Course and no points. Regards Peter

But Bonzo Dog crossed the line on green - but was unable to complete the manoeuvre.

Zafira1.8 - Red light offences - Dwight Van Driver

Edited by Dwight Van Driver on 28/06/2012 at 15:24

Zafira1.8 - Red light offences - Cris_on_the_gas

The Highway code paragraph 176 regarding Junctions controlled by traffic lights states "only go forward when the traffic lights are green if there is room for you to clear the junction safely or you are taking up a position to turn right.

The OP did not adhere to this and should therefore face the consequence. agree a bit harsh but best take the Driver improvement course and learn from it

Zafira1.8 - Red light offences - TeeCee

Some time ago, I braked for a light as it went red. I heard the sound of the vehicle behind me locking up on the wet road and backed off the brakes. I shot the lights by about 2/3 of the car's length (plenty of space to do so and no threat whatsoever to anything else) and he stopped behind me, just shy of my rear bumper, looking slightly sheepish.

The alternative would have been a rear-end smash.

Apparently had the lights had a camera, I'd have been done for avoiding a nasty accident. This is why "yes or no" camera enforcement based on rigid rules is just plain idiotic, nothing to do with safety and all about lining someone's pockets.

Zafira1.8 - Red light offences - Bromptonaut

Some time ago, I braked for a light as it went red. I heard the sound of the vehicle behind me locking up on the wet road and backed off the brakes. I shot the lights by about 2/3 of the car's length (plenty of space to do so and no threat whatsoever to anything else) and he stopped behind me, just shy of my rear bumper, looking slightly sheepish.

The alternative would have been a rear-end smash.

Apparently had the lights had a camera, I'd have been done for avoiding a nasty accident. This is why "yes or no" camera enforcement based on rigid rules is just plain idiotic, nothing to do with safety and all about lining someone's pockets.

Braked as it went red? What were you (and the guy behind) doing during the single amber phase?

Actually you'd probably get away with that on on a camera. They're usually triggered by car crossing the line after red and take a second shot in another half second or so after real offenders have completely crossed the line. Too many false +ves otherwise.

Motorists tend to fulminate about cyclists shooting lights yet vast majority of seriuos red light jump injuries are from motor vehicles going through at speed on first second of red.

Cyclists are more likley to be creeping through kerbside or opportunists in an over long all red/pedestrian phase.