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Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - arnold2

I currently drive about 600 miles/week, and it looks like I will be doing so for a couple of years to come.

I'm currently running a 2006 Focus TDCi, which although fairly fuel-efficient (50+mpg), running from 60 to 150k miles has so far cost, apart from usual service, tyres etc:

£1,000 - DMF/Clutch

£600 - turbo

£500 - injector service

So the idea that diesel's are great & cheap to run is nonsense - great on a company car/3 years, not for private use over an extended time. And I'm lucky I don't have a DPF, and my EGR valve is OK.

So, any recommendations from back-roomers for a reliable, low cost car to run to 250k - all my journeys are motorway so low-stress on the car. Thinking 3 years/30k miles old, £8k-ish.

My current thoughts (all non-diesel!):

Honda Civic, 1.8 vvti

Seat/Skoda 1.4 TSI 120ps

Think I need to get about 45mpg, which since petrol is cheaper means not much increase in fuel costs.....

Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - unthrottled

So the idea that diesel's are great & cheap to run is nonsense

That must be why haulage firms who trucks clock up 75000+ miles pa are rushing over to spark ignition engines...

You were either unfortunate to need so many expensive parts, or the car was poorly maintained. Or the garage incompetent. Lots of turbos are replaced unnecessarily or without investigating why the turbo failed in the first place, so the replacement turbo fails in short order. DMF failure is largely down to driver sympathy or lack thereof.

It's worth pointng out that as direct injection petrol engines become more 'dieselly' in their operation (HP turbo, DMF, HP fuel pump, sooty EGR etc.), then their problems also become similar to diesels.

I spite of the hype about eco-variable-intelligent-intergalactic nomsense, petrol engines are some way off diesels in terms of sheer efficiency. You can tease 45 mpg out of a 1.8 vvt, but it's hard work and not much fun. I had the pleasure of borrowing an 07 Fabia VRS for a week. Total blast when you put the hammer down, wonderful motorway cruiser and 55 mpg without any effort at all. You won't get that from a gasser.

Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - arnold2

You're right in the sense that buying a s/h car, you have no way of knowing how the thing has been treated - Turbo guys (it was a specialist & was diagnosed by 2 companies) said the previous owner had skipped an oil change, DMF is related to useage but look on here and lots of people have the same issue

Lorries can crack stellar mailages as they are so heavily engineered; your average mid-sized car, to cope with the torque, has a DMF instead of a beafy gearbox.

Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - Avant

If you were buying new and doing 30,000 miles a year, it would be diesel every time. You've been unlucky (or the car hasn't been properly serviced) as some Ford diesels do high mileages without problems: but you're right to say that modern diesels can get very expensive as mileage mounts.

But I also agree with Unthrottled that petrol engines can also go wrong expensively, and that getting 45 mpg out of a petrol will mean pussyfooting around and not exceeding 60 mph. The Mark 1 Fabia vRS that he mentions has the 1.9 TDI engine which was fitted to most VW Group cars, and something with this engine is what I'd go for in your position with your budget and mileage.

If you're set on petrol, best to go Japanese and add the Toyota Corolla / Auris and Mazda 3 or 6 to your list.

Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - Bobbin Threadbare

If you're going over to petrol, get a Mazda 6. I have a 2005 one and it will not die. In 14 months of ownership it has cost me a headlight bulb, aside from the usual MOT etc. They also have really good stereos. I get around 38mpg out of mine but I don't drive for economy. It's now at around 102k on the clock and it runs as sweetly as when I bought it (think I've put about 30k on it). It's comfortable too.

Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - RT

Just get a very boring diesel from Ford or Vauxhall - you won't win prizes for style and they will need jobs doing but every good workshop in the land knows how they work.

You need to bet on averages, not possibilities.

Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - Happy Blue!

Correct. The idea of 30,000 miles pa in a Honda Civic petrol seems fine until things like low gearing and hard ride come to mind.

RT is bang on the button. There is a reason why fleets choose Mondeos etc for their standard cars and that is whole of life running costs.

I would not want a car smaller than a Focus for the mileage you will be doing either.

Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - Bobbin Threadbare

I would not want a car smaller than a Focus for the mileage you will be doing either.

Concur! My mum has a Toyota Aygo, and it will perform if you work it, but when it's very windy it's really unpleasant to do a long motorway trip in it. The noise is incredible and it wobbles.

Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - unthrottled

Small does not necessarily equate to town runaround. That fabia was an awesome cruiser. Steady as a rock and quiet 1800RPM@70MPH in 6th. It would still accelerate in top too. I'd rather be in that than an Avensis 1.8 for long drives. Yes, it would blow around a little on windy sections of motorway like the Thelwall viaduct, but it was hardly fatiguing

Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - Bobbin Threadbare

No, but the Fabia is a mid-sized hatch type like the Focus. Below this size could be irritating for lengthy jaunts.

Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - mrnikko

My local small Ford dealer has a 51 plate 1.8 turbo diesel that he lends out as his courtesy car its done 199,000 miles and it drives o.k. his reasoning is quite simple Fords will run to high miles and this is the proof. Also compared to other brands the parts are cheap and can be found almost anywhere. So as other posters have said buy a Ford Vauxhall diesel look after it and it will be fine, personally petrol engines will cause trouble once 150,000 plus comes up on the clock i speak from bitter experiance

Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - gordonbennet

Look see what taxi owning companies operate, but bear in mind they will be using tried and trusted indy's for maintenance.

They don't usually run cars that break down continually, interestingly i seldom see Ford taxi's apart from Galaxies which are normally sold on after 3 years from the two big fleets i'm thinking of.

As for Mondeo and Focus, for some reason they seem to have almost default status on these forums, i really am baffled as to why, i have to drive them now and again and underwhelmed would be putting it mildly, they do nothing for me driving wise or ambience.

Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - ChannelZ

As for Mondeo and Focus, for some reason they seem to have almost default status on these forums, i really am baffled as to why, i have to drive them now and again and underwhelmed would be putting it mildly, they do nothing for me driving wise or ambience.

You're doing it wrong, then.

All the biggest taxi firms round Belfast are running Mk4 Mondeos now, all the huge fleets of Octavias seem to be gone. Mostly 2.0TDCI Zetecs, and round my home town there's guys still using pre-2005 Mk3 Mondeos. Few of them are using cars identical to mine (1.8LX), though running on gas.

Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - barney100

Merc C class 1.8 petrol. No timing belt, decent mpg.

Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - Trilogy
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Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - unthrottled

No timing belt,

Well, that's all right then!

Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - madf

The cheapest car to run is the one that costs least to buy and is reliable.

Follow taxi drivers and you cannot go wrong.

Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - Collos25

That will be a E class 220cdi then

Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - balleballe

Only if made before 2000 or after 2007

Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - Roly93

You are just unforutunate. I know of diesel Foci and Mondeos which have done well into 6 figure mileages with no real out of the ordinary expenses.

I've had turbo diesels since 2002 and have never had an EGR or Turbo problem nor has anyone I know.

The DMF issue is also understandable at 100K+ mileages if the car has done a moderate amount of town driving. Any car these days on these sorts of mileages can throw you an expensive curved-ball, and a stressed small petrol turbo car is a prime candidiate.

Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - BenG

Kia Cee'd 1.6CRDi? Balance of 7 year warranty, no DPF (if you buy pre-2011), no DMF and chain cam drive! Also a nice smooth engine with a decent spread of torque.

Personally, I don't think you can expect to drive any car for 150k+ miles without the odd large bill...

Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - unthrottled

How did Kia keep selling non DPF diesels so late after the start of euro V? They must have built up a stockpile before the cut off date!

Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - balleballe

Must have - even Honda didn't till 2008 though

Any - Most reliable car/cheapest to run to high mileage? - TR7

Just got rid of a duff focus and got a Hyundai i30 1.6 CRDi. I do approx 1000 miles a week.

These are quite responsive engines getting 48 mpg can get better depends how heavy your right foot is. Premium trim is best,full leather heated seats and climate control.