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ALL radar warning devices - now illegal in France! - Bilboman

I've just updated my TomTom maps and an alert flashed up that all devices that warn of (fixed or mobile) speed traps in France are now illegal, as of 1st January 2012. TomTom suggests removing all SatNav radar warnings for France and will not update this information in future, but offers to provide warning of "danger zones" if possible in the future (some would argue that the whole country is a "danger zone"!)

Anecdotal evidence of les flics reveals that the police rigurously enforce speed limits and show no mercy. They are known to have forcibly removed warning devices, confiscating and actually destroying them on the spot. This in addition to marching offending drivers to a cashpoint to collect a fine on the spot and well known accounts of instant magistrate court appearances at the roadside and instant jail sentences in the most extreme cases.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of all of this, WE HAVE BEEN WARNED! A reduction in road deaths from 17,000 a year (1972) to 5000 (2005) over a period which saw road traffic triple simply HAS to be called progress.

Very interesting report here: http://www.fiafoundation.org/publications/Documents/road_safety_in_france.pdf

Bonne route!

ALL radar warning devices - now illegal in France! - colinh

From motorcyclenews.com:

"Motoring lawyer Eric de Caumont told French newspaper Le Monde that police would not to be able to scrutinize GPS devices at the roadside because it would infringe the owner’s right to privacy.

A spokesman for Garmin, a leading supplier of sat navs for bikes, said French government had agreed new software could be supplied with ‘danger area’ warnings which ‘might or might not’ be a speed camera site. She said the French market was being prioritised but the new software would be available in the UK soon."

However it has been said that French customs (who often have spot checks on the motorways near borders) do have the right to examine them.

ALL radar warning devices - now illegal in France! - jamie745

French Government makes rules which cannot be enforced. Hardly surprising for a nation full of peasants and communists.

ALL radar warning devices - now illegal in France! - monian

You can now xenophobia to the list of your dubious talents Jamie

ALL radar warning devices - now illegal in France! - unthrottled

Shame-I always used to love speeding in france since I figured that it didn't much matter if I hit one of them.

The French used to have such an enlightened attitude to driving; you used to see battered old Renault 4s with straw filled tyres, driven by walnut faced farmers to the markets. Always grossly overladen with cages of chickens. Now France is just like everywhere else-full of pas de fumer signs and shiny new Citroens sans dents. boooring!

ALL radar warning devices - now illegal in France! - carr

Ne pas fumer ...infinitive imperative = ne pas + infinitive

Edited by carr on 06/02/2012 at 08:29

ALL radar warning devices - now illegal in France! - unthrottled

Carr-thanks for the correction. You are quite right!

ALL radar warning devices - now illegal in France! - Big John

Thanks for the heads up. I reguarly drive in France and use my TomTom 930T.

The TomTom support site is helpful over this issue even if you don't have an up to date speed camera subscription.

uk.support.tomtom.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5560...B

ALL radar warning devices - now illegal in France! - Smileyman

I should think much of the improvement in road safety can be attributed to the removal of 3 lane roads .. one lane for each direction and a central lane shared by both directions for overtaking .....

ALL radar warning devices - now illegal in France! - Avant

Very likely. Those three-lane roads were lethal, weren't they! I think it was the 1960s when the UK started getting rid of them.

ALL radar warning devices - now illegal in France! - Ethan Edwards

If we users of tech want the French Government to change it's laws might I suggest....barricading the channel ports. Ambushing British Lorries with live lambs on board then setting tthe lorries and the lambs on fire.

Thats works every time with the spineless French Government.

Lovely neighbours we have.

ALL radar warning devices - now illegal in France! - focussed

"Anecdotal evidence of les flics reveals that the police rigurously enforce speed limits and show no mercy. They are known to have forcibly removed warning devices, confiscating and actually destroying them on the spot. This in addition to marching offending drivers to a cashpoint to collect a fine on the spot and well known accounts of instant magistrate court appearances at the roadside and instant jail sentences in the most extreme cases".

You are talking about radar/laser detectors here, they have been illegal here for years.

The recent knee-jerk reaction to the fact that the road fatality figure had not come down to that promised by our bonsai president has resulted in this recent change in the law regarding gps -type instruments with the speed camera warnings.. A just about unenforceable law because police, gendarmes etc are not authorised to enter your car or rummage about within your garmin or whatever to find out whether you have enabled your speed camera option or not. However, the douanes (customs) are authorised, and a simple foil for this is to activate the password function on the device and if you get stopped, just switch the thing off, when switched on again it will require the password( that you just forgot) to activate it-simples!

Most people here are just ignoring all this BS and it will probably go away if Sarko doesn't get elected president in March and gets his old job back as the car park attendant at the Elysee palace.

ALL radar warning devices - now illegal in France! - Bilboman

Most people here are just ignoring all this BS and it will probably go away if Sarko doesn't get elected president in March and gets his old job back as the car park attendant at the Elysee palace.

On verrá!

I have visions of uniformed jobswrths trying to extract data from a built-in SatNav device. I think rather than set the password, it might be quite fun to set the home language as Armenian.

It's quite frightening and draconian legislation on the face of it, but as everyone seems to agree, unenforceable. Or put it another way - as easy to enforce as French marriage vows!