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Ford Fiesta - How much can tyres affect fuel consumption - Man without a plan

Hi folks,

Two weeks ago I replaced the tyres on my Ford Fiesta 1.4 Petrol (2007 = '57). Previously it had on the original tyres, I forget which make they were but one the the better known brands.

Car on these was averaging about 42 mpg

Replaced all four tyres for Kumho's and ever since my fuel consumption has slowly plummeted for currently 39.4 mpg...

So is it possible that the (correctly inflated) tyres are responsible for this drop or could something else be wrong?

Ford Fiesta - How much can tyres affect fuel consumption - jamie745

If the tyre pressures are too low it will cause extra resistance which will hurt fuel economy. Sometimes if you switch to tyres with extra grip (specialist wet weather tyres etc) they can also create more resistance (obviously) and lower fuel economy.

Ford Fiesta - How much can tyres affect fuel consumption - gordonbennet

In the last 2 weeks the temperatures have dropped quickly, this is more likely the reason as you car takes longer to fully warm.

Changing tyre brands but staying with the same size and type won't make a huge difference, pressures as Jamie says will.

If you check your pressures now it's colder i would imagine they will be a bit on the low side.

Ford Fiesta - How much can tyres affect fuel consumption - unthrottled

A fall of 6% is hardly plummeting! Yes, tyres could account for that, but don't forget that the temperature has fallen in the last couple of weeks. That could also account for it.

Ford Fiesta - How much can tyres affect fuel consumption - jamie745

It was absolutely freezing when i left for work this morning and i like to get the car to a t-shirt wearing climate before moving off (which doesnt take long to be honest) i had everything hot and even used the seatwarmer for the first time ever and the computer reckons its still doing 25mpg.

Ford Fiesta - How much can tyres affect fuel consumption - Man without a plan

Well, I checked all of the tyres today and the pressures were all spot on except for the rear passenger side which was way down...

Since all of the tyres are new (two weeks old) is this likely to be a) an unfortunate slow puncture b) faulty valve? c) faulty tyre? d) something else?

Cheers guys

Ford Fiesta - How much can tyres affect fuel consumption - Ethan Edwards

Look it it the other way round. Michelin claim 'up to 10% greater fuel economy' from fitting their Enegry saver tyres. Allowing for hype let's say between 5 and 7.5%.

Ford Fiesta - How much can tyres affect fuel consumption - MikeTorque

Check the leaking tyre again and if it's still going low then it's likely the tyre hasn't sealed properly on the wheel rim, in which case have the original fitters of the tyre refit and seal the tyre again.

It can take a week or so for tyre pressures to settle as air is forced into the new tyre structure & the possibility of a leak as a result of fitted not being 100%. As such each tyre needs inspecting & checking to detect any that may not have settled for whatever reason. After that they should hold their pressure well and all tyres should lose air at around the same rate as each other if they have been properly sealed and none has a small puncture.

At this time of the year your fuel consumption will be most influenced by the colder weather conditions rather than tyre changes due to addition friction demands and cold starting etc.

In addition ensure fuel consumption is measured to brim if not already done. The old tyres that were replaced would have slightly smaller circumferences than the new tyres, the smaller circumferences would slightly lower the car's gearing and the car would actually have a slight reduction in mpg although a trip computer would show slightly higher mpg. When the new tyres were fitted the slightly larger circumferences would slightly increase the gearing and actually mpg would improve whilst the trip would show slightly less mpg when compared with the previous set of results taken whilst the car was ran on the old tyres.

Ford Fiesta - How much can tyres affect fuel consumption - unthrottled

What sort of driving do you do? Tyre resistance is significant below 40 mph, but fairly trivial at 60+mph.

I hadn't considered the change of circumference as the tyre wears. I know it is responsible for trucks getting caught in 'slow races', but their tyres have much thicker treads.

So if we start with an R13 175/70 tyre and assume that the tread wears by 5mm from start of life to end of life, does the circumerence change much?

Basic tyre diameter = 575mm (22.6")

circumference=1807mm. (71.1")

5mm tread wear =10mm loss of diameter=31.4mm (1.24") loss of circumference

~1.75%

Small, but not totally insignificant. I'll have to factor that into my fuel economy logs ;)

Ford Fiesta - How much can tyres affect fuel consumption - gordonbennet

5mm tread wear =10mm loss of diameter=31.4mm (1.24") loss of circumference

~1.75%

Small, but not totally insignificant. I'll have to factor that into my fuel economy logs ;)

One thing i always wonder about when people report their amazing fuel economy's, if they run sat nav they probably realise their car speedo is inaccurate and can read up to 10% slow without taking the valid point of tyre wear* into account.

But aggressively insist their mileometer is accurate and believe the on board fuel display is teardrop accurate too.

It doesn't take the most cynical person to realise that a car maker isn't going to have their cars showing figures that put their car in a bad light when others appear 10% better, most people go by the dash display.

I used to work with a bloke who was convinced his Golf 2.0litre Diesel returned between 70 and 80 mpg in normal use, and went like the wind simultaneously..

*truck tyre wear is significant, on new tyres my regular truck from my last job was travelling at a true 55mph as shown on the calibrated speedo and by satnav, by the time the tyres were recut and getting close to replacement it would be travelling at a true 53mph satnav whilst obviously still showing 55 on the speedo...most drivers would try and time their recalibration date to coincide with worn tyres..:).

Probably find car tyres are similar, they may not have the depth of tread difference quite so much (increased by truck tyres being regroovable) but given the proportionately smaller rolling radius there's more than likely a similar result.

Edited by gordonbennet on 10/12/2011 at 10:57

Ford Fiesta - How much can tyres affect fuel consumption - 206Hdi
I was wondering about the mileometer given that I know my speedo overheads. Having time on my hands when I drive I have tried testing this and found if I set the speedo to 60mph and reset the journey timer, trip and the average speed it takes me longer than a minute to clock up one mile (obviously doing in for 10 miles reduces error) and I find the average speed computer tells me 57mph. Great news on the mileometer as it means I am not filling the dealers pockets by getting my car serviced too early.

I figure it's just the software in the car reduces the speed shown on the speedo, with other speed/distances related outputs being broadly right (but certainly not fuel consumption).

It does perhaps explain why some people take their car to the garage and come away saying the revs have changed at a given speed. Since we know the mechanical parts haven't been changed it stands to reason that a software update could increase/decrease the speedo over read but without changing the revs.

As I say I have a lot of time on my hands when I drive to ponder these things.

Edited by 206Hdi on 10/12/2011 at 11:48