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Ford Focus 2.0i ESP 2000 petrol - Car battery capacity - planetf1

I got stranded at the weekend with a flat battery -- I'd left my sidelights on. The mechanic that attended tested the charging voltage under idle and load & reckoned charging/alternator was fine. He didn't seem to think the battery was faulty, but didn't do a drop test.

The car is a UK Focus 2.0i ESP from 2000 (mk.1)

I currently have a Moura Intelligent 063+ battery fitted rated at 45/400. It was fitted 1 Dec 2009 with a 5yr warranty

I'm wondering what capacity I should expect

- ambient temp around 5-12 deg.C

- Typical day is

a) 5 miles country roads (to gym), 1 set of lights 30-60 mph < 15 mins

b) 5 miles country roads (to work), 30-60 mph normally 1 set, recently 3+ due to roadworks (*) ~ 15 mins

c) 4 miles (home), o****ry roads ~30mph ~ 10-12 mins

On (*) above the roadworks are currently resulting in a slow 4 way controlled junction leading to an up to 4-5 minutes wait. I've probably switched the engine off, probably once, at this junction to save fuel/emissions

I don't do many longer journeys - sometimes at weekend, but probably nothing for last few weeks. One reason why I rather fancy a Focus EV (or leaf) ...

During the week I had left the interior light on overnight on one occasion (8-10 hours)

On Saturday I repeated a) to get to the gym but accidentally left lights on (they switch to sidelights automatically with ign off).

The car was left like this for approx 2.5 hours

On return clicking only - no start

After jump starting, running for 5 mins, and driving home in lower gear/higher revs, I put the battery on to charge after a) in reverse, but my (smart) charger reckoned it was fully charged within 10 minutes (??)

The following day I started the car 8 times over a couple of hours, and left sidelights+interior light on for about 4 hours - result=dead battery

I've charged again, started once this morning, plan to leave lights on for the day and see if it charges again.

The battery is not tested yet, but is only 2 years old. I'm struggling to find the paperwork for the warranty, and slightly more complicatedly the location selling the battery has closed, though the same "group" still runs other outlets, but didn't sell the same parts. I can probably get sorted if faulty but may take time.

Am I expecting too much of the capacity? Is the bottom line this is normal, I screwed up with hitting the battery too hard this week? Or is there an indication there could be a fault? I may take it to the local battery shop for a test... Is the correct fix simply to have the user reprogrammed to not be stupid enough to leave lights on? (and/or get a higher capacity battery for safety). Am somewhat tempted to get a "starter" unit for backup.

How many starts would you expect the battery to manage?

How much power does leaving interior light on take (I'd assume it's around 5W so even overnight inconsequential?)

How about sidelights ? Around 48W/4A? -> so just this could be 1/4 capacity?

Checking battery sellers some more perhaps suggests 60-70 Ah as higher end (maybe better for lots of short journeys) so is it fair conclusion here of user error (in purchase, & in usage)

Ford Focus 2.0i ESP 2000 petrol - Car battery capacity - Peter.N.

Most of the symptoms point to low battery capacity. The large number of thin plates modern batteries have means that they can still provide enough power to start the engine when they actually have a very low capacity so there is little in reserve. If its been run flat on many occaisions that will seriously ruduce its life, they are designed to only provide enough energy to start the engine and then the alternator takes over, running them flat will quite likely kill them. Batteries designed for deep cycle operation have much thicker plates and more substantial construction.

This is all assuming of course that the charging circuit is actully in good order and that there is no load on the battery when standing that you don't know about..

Ford Focus 2.0i ESP 2000 petrol - Car battery capacity - madf

My wife ran a Peugeot 106 diesel for 15 years - almost all VERY short journeys..<1.5 miles.

Batteries lasted 3 years on average. The symptoms of death were as you described and a recharge showing a full battery in 10 minutes is classic.

We ended up buying a calcium 85 AH capacity which was going strong when it was scrapped. (4 years old.)

On the other hand, Son's Yaris has an original 11 year battery and my Yaris diesel has its original 8 year battery. Neither are used exclusievely for short journeys though.

I would advise the biggest battery you can fit .. BUT if you don't intend to keep the car, anything with a three year warranty..(two bartteries on the 106 were replaced free under warranty)

I would NOT describe your journeys as short -.

Edited by madf on 21/11/2011 at 12:56

Ford Focus 2.0i ESP 2000 petrol - Car battery capacity - mikej

I had a 1.8 Mk1 Focus for 8+ years, so here are a few of my thoughts of the subject...

For starters, leaving interior lights on is a classic way of draining a battery in any car - are you really surprised that your battery keeps going flat if you leave them on so much ?! It does sound like your battery is on the way out though, if it's going flat with the interior or side-lights being left on for only a few hours.

In terms of batteries for the Focus, Ford recommend only using calcium batteries (so not lead acid batteries) due to the high voltage 'Smart Charging System' used.

IIRC, the OEM calcium battery in my Focus was rated at something like 340W, but I replaced it with a Halfords Calcium battery (HCB065) which was rated at 470A/53AH.

My advice would be to take your battery to an indpendent auto electrical specialist (or Halfords if more convenient), who should be able to a quick (free) battery test.

If your battery is faulty and you can't claim on the warranty easily, then I would replace it with a more powerful, branded Calcium battery (eg. Bosch, Varta etc)

I needed my battery urgently on a Sunday so Halfords was the only option, but I figured the 4 year warranty was a pretty good indication of quality (and easy to take it back if any problems were to occur)

You should be able to get an equivalent Bosch battery from an auto electrical place for less - I recently paid about £75 for a Bosch Calcium Silver battery for my Mazda 6, for example.

Edited by mikej on 21/11/2011 at 18:56