Supply and demand, prices coming into line with other european countries, you all voted for continued integration, enjoy.

Shortage of older high quality used due to extremely sensible Africans and East Europeans buying the best and shipping them abroad.

." Right now we all have a Government nobody voted for at all. Second Prime Minister in a row who wasnt elected aswell. Democracy working well here in Britain."

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I seem to remember a General Election - or rather about 9 in a row.. where I never voted for a PM but for a Party...

And i remember an election last year where a party which didnt win ended up with their leader becoming Prime Minister. Potato Potarto.

Nobody won. And in that circumstance the party with the most seats usually has first dibs at forming a coalition. Our unwritten constitution works that way.

Last time it happened was in Feb 74. Heath tried to agree a coalition with the Liberals but couldn't agree. He walked and let Wilson/Labour form a minority govt. They passed some popular measures (food subsidies) and called another election in October which they narrowly won. Lost a few by-elections but struggled on with Lib support until May 79.

The last time we had a Hung Parliament the party which eventually came out of it in power had 5 years in charge and then sat on the opposition benches for the best part of two decades, history would suggest a Labour win in 2015. The Tories need to fix the finances, get the deficit down and gain a majority and votes all at the same time.

I wouldn't put too much on that precedent.

Callaghan nearly called an election in autumn 78 but bottled it. My Dada and I sat in disbelief to his live broadcast to the nation. He'd most likely have won. Thatcher was not popular at the time; it was the 78/9 'Winter of Discontent' that did for him.

The Conservative majority from 79 to 83 was not large by later standards; around 35. The landslides were 83 and 87.

Edited by Bromptonaut on 14/11/2011 at 14:31

(Sorry - refers to an abusive exchange which I've had to censor.)

Edited by Avant on 14/11/2011 at 22:53

US,UK and Euro economies are all in trouble so respective Exchange rates are unlikely to change much until a decisive event... like Greece actually defaulting..or Italy or France ..

Lots of deckchair re-arranging. Wait for real action to see a move.

'All Labour's fault' is getting very boring now. Pathetic excuses with Cameron offering no reason why anybody should vote for him, of course he doesnt have to give anybody a reason to vote for him for quite some time yet. However not being Labour isnt going to be enough for 2015, he couldnt beat Gordon Brown last year which should make him feel embarassed to show his face in public so it wont work in 2015 either.

still he ploughed on claiming to have banished boom and bust...

I think Brown had this vision of constant boom. Try and wrap your head round that one.

the Tories will get the blame for clearing up Labour's financial mess

The point is that there is still nothing to really suggest the Tories (this lot anyway) actually have the ability to do that.

Tory supporters go on the internet and spout about Brown bankrupting Britain etc but the fact is the Tories still didnt win last year, Cameron couldnt properly beat the supposed fish in a barrel. Most people have no interest in deficits and kicking disabled people out of wheelchairs (the two things the Conservative's are very keen on) people vote in accordance with what will affect them personally and the Conservative's plans will - neccessarily or otherwise - negatively impact alot of people.

Im not saying they cant win and i will make my voting decision no earlier than a fortnight before the election, what im saying is the public need to see results. Not so much with Cameron but more importantly with Osborne's economic plans, he's the man who needs to see his decisions pay off so as the Conservative's can point to what they've done right rather than rely on listing what Labour did wrong. Its easy to win an election (which they didnt) based on your oppositions failure after a long time in Government but by 2015 Labour will be out of Government for 5 years and not to blame for anything.

Edited by jamie745 on 14/11/2011 at 23:40