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Hyundai i30 - Tyre Choices - Premium v Mid Brand help please - Dingle232

Am looking to replace the OEM Kumho Solus 17 tyres on my car which have been on since new. I have always been a Michelin buyer in the past but have been staggered to see how much these would cost to put on my car (about 85 pounds a tyre) - even though this is par for the course for a premium tyre.

Two questions really and apologies of this is going over old ground. I don't want to skimp on safety but my car is hardly a F1 flyer - it gets me to work and back and the occasional longer trip. Are the premium tyre brands 'really' worth the premium price or are a good mid-range tyre a safet bet?

I am particularly looking at the michelin Energy Saver at the premium end vs the Uniroyal RainExpert at mid-range. The difference to me is about 120 pounds in cost.

If anyone has other decent recommendations I'd appreciate it. Both of the above score well in the Which? and other tyre tests.

Hyundai i30 - Tyre Choices - Premium v Mid Brand help please - mlj

Like yourself, I have in the past bought Michelin. However, about five years ago my local independent tyre man recommended Vredestein as a cheaper alternative, adding that in his opinion they were also a better tyre. I did, and haven't bought anything else since.

Additionally, I suspect your needs are pretty much the same as mine: quality and longevity. I recommend them. Not the cheapest but you will save a fair amount over Michelin.

Hyundai i30 - Tyre Choices - Premium v Mid Brand help please - daveyjp

What size are they as £85 for a 17 inch Michelin doesn't seem OTT. I see Kumhos as mid range so I'd simply replace like for like.

Hyundai i30 - Tyre Choices - Premium v Mid Brand help please - Dingle232

The '17' is the tyre model number from Kumho. My tyres are 185/65 R15H.

Edited by Dingle232 on 22/08/2011 at 12:03

Hyundai i30 - Tyre Choices - Premium v Mid Brand help please - gordonbennet

You wont go wrong with Uniroyal Rain Experts, they've done well on the daughters Civic for the last 25K well thrashed miles, quiet with excellent predictable grip. I swapped them to the rear to even the wear out and put the also ran ditchfinders that were on the rear (when bought) to the front for the summer. I swapped them back this weekend as the also rans spin constantly in the wet, something the Uniroyals will not do.

As MLJ, Vredesteins are good tyres, i've had their excellent winter tyres previously, we currently run Sportrac3's on SWMBO's C2VTS, replaced Michelins, better in all grips and less noise to boot. Daughter had Quatrac 2 all seasons on her previous 106, they quietly covered well over 40k hard miles swapped round to even wear out, and gripped the snow and ice like a full on winter spec.

So impressed was she that a set of Quatrac 3 all seasons sit in my garage waiting to go on her Civic in time for the coming winter.

If you're replacing anyway it might be worth looking at good all seasons, Goodyear Vector and Kleber Quadraxer are well spoken of as is the aforementioned Vred Quatrac, all of those (others too that i haven't mentioned) have the all important snowflake mark which means they have necessary cold weather tread compound.

A browse on Camskill and Mytres would be prudent whatever you're looking for.

Hyundai i30 - Tyre Choices - Premium v Mid Brand help please - colinh

The problem with Michelin is they are sold to the car companies at very low prices, with the hope that Michelin can recover their money in the replacement market. "Energy saving" is usually at the expense of a harsh ride and noise, and fuel economy will be based on many other factors beside tyres. All part of the "green" scam.

Hyundai i30 - Tyre Choices - Premium v Mid Brand help please - daveyjp

Apols re size confusion - my sister's i30 has 17 inch rims.

I tend to start with Camskill for prices:

Kumho KH15 17s are £35.90, Uniroyal £49.10, Michelin are £70.40, plus delivery. Plus another 20-30 options so plenty of choice. I'd still go for OEM, especially at the low price.

Hyundai i30 - Tyre Choices - Premium v Mid Brand help please - Dingle232

You mean go for the OEM as in the Kumho? I really didn't rate them at all to be honest and of the rest I think the Uniroyals are probably the best deal at that price.

I must admit being tempted by the All Season tyres mentioned in a really helpful earlier post but can't seem to find them in the size I want.

As a slight aside, never done this before, but do you tend to get much of a problem getting independents to fit tyres you didn't buy from them?

Hyundai i30 - Tyre Choices - Premium v Mid Brand help please - daveyjp

If you don't rate the Kumhos add another vote for Vredestein or the Uniroyals.

I have no trouble getting a local independent fitter to fit tyres I supply - £5 a corner. You could always use internet prices to get a price match.

Hyundai i30 - Tyre Choices - Premium v Mid Brand help please - gordonbennet

'''I must admit being tempted by the All Season tyres mentioned in a really helpful earlier post but can't seem to find them in the size I want'''.

Punch your size requirements in on Mytyres site they have a good selection of all seasons in your size, including Quatracs, Vectors and Quadraxers, i've dealt with them many times and never a problem, free del too.

''As a slight aside, never done this before, but do you tend to get much of a problem getting independents to fit tyres you didn't buy from them?''

Mytyres site has a fitting search facility, give your postcode and it will give several fitting shops within a reasonable distance to you, check with the respective fitter by phone to confrim the price, you can have the tyres directly delivered to the fitting shop if you wish, or indeed ask the shop if they'll price match (allow a bit extra for them to fit obviously).

I use a handy chap who charges me a tenner a tyre, small indies are the best, avoid fast fit shops for things like this imo.

Hyundai i30 - Tyre Choices - Premium v Mid Brand help please - SteveLee
Daughter had Quatrac 2 all seasons on her previous 106, they quietly covered well over 40k hard miles swapped round to even wear out, and gripped the snow and

Don't rotate tyres on a small light cars - keep meaty tyres on the rear. When the fronts need replacing, put the rears on the front and the new tyres on the rear. I wouldn't let rear tread-depth drop below 3mm on a small light car. The reason? Aquaplaning, there's enough weight over the front to keep things in check but you need plenty of tread-depth to clear the water from the lightly loaded rear tyres. Most tyre fitters advise you to rotate tyres to even out wear coz that's what you did in the old days - they are putting your life at risk through ill-informed dogma.

Hyundai i30 - Tyre Choices - Premium v Mid Brand help please - gordonbennet
''The reason? Aquaplaning, there's enough weight over the front to keep things in check but you need plenty of tread-depth to clear the water from the lightly loaded rear tyres. Most tyre fitters advise you to rotate tyres to even out wear coz that's what you did in the old days - they are putting your life at risk through ill-informed dogma''.

And the light rear end aquaplanes after driving through the channel that has just been cleared of standing water by the front tyres?

Dangerous are those who run their tyres right down to 1.6mm in the best bits wherever they happen to be on the car, might as well remove the tyre and drive on inner tubes for all the wet grip they'll have.