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Also - remember a salesman will make a very fat comission on an undiscounted car, while he will get a nominal amount for selling it around it's minimum sale price.
If you are serious I'd phone the sales manager and say you are buying if he can do the price you want to pay.
It's a Ford - there are something like 300 dealers in the UK.
They all like to sell cars.
EDIT: or just go through DTD.com if you want a no-hassle deal.
Edited by Lygonos on 17/07/2010 at 17:59
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Hi Lygonos & friends,
Most interesting replies so far, most appreciated. Upto £4000, my god, I started him off at a £2000 discount and he didn't even try to move on that. He did the usual; walk into the office and come back 5 minutes later saying his boss said no. I asked if that was absolute, and he replied yes, of course I walked at that. I'm in no rush to buy and I'm sure a Ford Galaxy is not going to have mega people swarming after it. I'm not the impulsive type so I can wait.
It still amazes me for he could have had an on the spot deal there and then but maybe greed is a funny thing to deal with. Some bonus is better than none at all in my eyes.
Is there a searchable national database for Ford dealers which I can use to search their stock holdings?
Regards to all,
John
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Ironically, as a cash buyer you may not be as welcome as someone who needs finance - that's where the big money is made these days. Even low rate deals often have a nasty admin fee that distorts the true APR somewhat.
Also, the retail car industry has changed and there is nowhere near the surfeit of cars in times past. Once that prereg has gone you may have to wait some time for another. I've been to a few Ford showrooms where they don't even have a Galaxy demonstrator, such is the paucity of stock.
Pre-regs are different, but it looks like they know there's usually strong demand but this particular one is a little sticky - perhaps because of all the extras.
Finally, all dealers are different, and this one sounds like one of the tighter ones for deals. As to browsing the dealer network, specific dealers would be able to check their own group stock and any Ford Approved used stock, but not Ford Motor Company UK stock I don't think...
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Hi Rumfitt & friends,
Thanks for your feedback, goods points made there. The dealer was very enthusiastic initially with the cash sale aspect, pushing the car, its features, blah, blah, blah!! When I mentioned a discount he nearly fell off his perch....... quite funny really, if I'd have my camcorder with me I could have got £250 off that TV program which pays for such stuff.
My neighbours boy who used to work in car sales years back was surprised a dealer had a car on stock with so many extras on it, reversing cameras, DVD SatNav mediaplayer etc etc. He thinks this stock item may have been a customer order which fell through.
There seems to be plenty of Galaxy's available but not this high spec TitaniumX model, so maybe he believes he can hold out for a better deal. I hope the car is still there in six or seven weeks time because I'll ring him and offer to buy if he gives me a £4000 discount, that should really p**s him off. If he says yes it will give me great pleasure in saying, "Thanks, but no thanks." That would be quite alien to my nature but one can make exceptions occasionally.
I've just contacted another dealer, he can provide the same car for delivery mid to end of September if ordered by Monday. Maybe that's just sales pitch, or is it lies similar to when a politicians lips are moving??
Regards,
John
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A dealer that rhymes with Arnold Park is selling prereg 10 plates(petrol) Titanium X's for £27,495
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Hi Videodoctor,
Yep, got to admit, you got me totally stumped there.......... I give up. I live in Northwest England and do not know of many dealers or car suppliers hence my request for help on our forum.
Rhymes with Arnold Park ????
I searched Google, maybe Arnold C*****.
Regards,
John
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Hi,
Found the exact same Galaxy TitaniumX 163 2.0L semi-auto, with the exact same specifications & extras by searching autotrader.co.uk. Price, just £30,481. That price is tax included, Reg fee included, delivery included, delivery time 2 to 8 weeks ( more likely the 8 weeks though from experience). That dealer is obviously still making a good profit at that price. Good on him, that's what he's in business for.
My Ford dealer however wanted £34,815 and said there was no profit left in it so he couldn't give me a discount............. Supports my previously expressed opinion, like a politician, when there salesmans lips were moving he was lying. He lost a good sale for the sake of a few bob discount. The power of greed!!
I hope this info helps others. Many thanks to everyone who inspired me with their leads.
Regards
John
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Your last guess at my named garage is correct but the naming policy on here is very draconian.I bought a car from them at Leyland and saved a massive fortune on list price(£9,000).I had a few niggles about a lost key but they eventually sorted it and i am very happy with my car.
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"....the naming policy on here is very draconian."
We have to be careful on here with comments which are in any way subjective, as in this litigious age we could easily be sued for defamation: also we don't want to put off any who might advertise with us (we couldn't run the forum without advertising).
But naming (without shaming) and stating a fact as you did above, Videodoctor, is fine.
Glad to hear you've found a better price, Johntee: a ploy that sometimes works is to get a quote from a broker such as Drivethedeal and ask the dealer if they can match it. If they are really keen to sell they may well come near it. But if they feel confident that they can get full price - e.g. when a model is much in demand - they won't.
Edited by Avant on 20/07/2010 at 00:20
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Hi All,
Lots of interesting comments here and having trawled dealers and online for a good deal it was clear that dealers differed in what they would do or offer. I heard comments that Ford modified the pricing to offer customers a generalised price drop (apparently trimming from dealer profit) due to the economic climate.
However, I did order in June and expect my Galaxy Titanium X 163 toward the end of October. Clearly some delays happened due to the Ford annual shut down, this was apparently compounded by gearbox supply issues - again hearsay and not from Ford - but 14 to 16 week delay was a little excessive but apparently the sales have been exceptional, rather than the suggestion by John "I'm sure a Ford Galaxy is not going to have mega people swarming after it." One wonders if this is a sudden rush before VAT increase? then Sales will drop, we will just have to wait and see I guess.
I tried several of the MPV market and was impressed by the Galaxy, I am looking forward to delivery which I hope will be sooner than later.
Anyone any experience on the economy actual .v. advertised?
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