Bye bye S60... :-( - DP
Just sold to a local postman for £1700. He's collecting it tonight.

I bought the car in March 2008 with 126,000 miles on the clock for £2500 from a friend. In the past two years, I have added 27,000 miles to that total without so much as a hiccup. It's needed remarkably little upkeep either for the mileage. Three services, a pair of front discs and new pads, a top engine mount, a replacement indicator stalk, a set of four new boots, and a handful of new bulbs. Still runs like new, drives superbly, and with just £800 depreciation in two years, and probably £500 in servicing, tyres and upkeep, it is laughably cheap motoring for such a beautifully constructed, refined and well equipped executive car.

I cannot recommend the S60 highly enough to anyone looking for a comfortable, reliable, safe, good looking (IMHO) family car. The 5 cylinder engines are peachy smooth, gutsy and sound great, reliability is first class, they have a level of comfort I haven't found in any other car anywhere near its class, and even the base models (such as mine was) are loaded with toys. Unlike a lot of other manufacturers, Volvo seem able to design it so it all keeps working as the car ages as well. Literally apart from one heated mirror, everything works, and has always done so.

I will miss its comfort, its styling, and its sheer feel good factor to drive. After 27,000 miles with the car, the only criticisms are its thirst (outside of motorway use), its appalling turning circle, its fidgety low speed ride, and its stingy rear leg room for such a big car. Oh, and the steering is alarmingly dead around the centre (in fairness, 150k won't have helped here) Otherwise, I cannot think of a single way these cars could be realistically improved. They go like stink, sound good, are built from granite, brilliantly reliable, loaded with toys, supremely comfortable and ridiculously cheap to buy secondhand.

It will be missed.
Bye bye S60... :-( - TheOilBurner
My commiserations DP. I still regret selling my S80 7 months on. It's like that feeling of a beloved pet that didn't come home one day... :)
Bye bye S60... :-( - prm72
I completely agree, part ex'd my 05 S60 D5 just before xmas for a Mercedes E280cdi Sport, and although i am loving the Merc i kinda miss my Volvo, i actually think it was better made than the Mercedes and the seats were better quality, but the ride in the Mrec is better. I was going to get the S80, i'm still kind of wodering why i didn't, they are super reliable.
Bye bye S60... :-( - Alanovich
I would love an S60. Or an S80 come to that. But I live in a hilly area and drive mostly on urban trips. The fuel economy (even in a diesel version) would probably be even worse than my 2.0 petrol auto Mazda 6 (which is bad enough).
Bye bye S60... :-( - Brian Tryzers
Sad indeed, DP. I saw a gold S60 yesterday and thought of you. My satisfaction with mine is well documented elsewhere. I've contemplated replacing it but until it shows signs of not doing what I need it to, I don't see the point.

Your point about how Volvos wear their age is a good one. Some cars seem to wear like trainers, to the point where eventually they're only fit for the bin; a well-maintained Volvo, on the other hand, develops a nice patina like a bench-made Northampton shoe, and looks and feels worn-in rather than worn-out. Or so I like to think, anyway. I have to admit to being a little concerned at the suggestions I read here that recent Volvos are less durable than older ones, but I doubt that'll deter me from buying another one when the time eventually comes.

Alanovich will have to find his own. }:---)
Bye bye S60... :-( - prm72
I used to get 41-45 mpg from my geartronic D5, mixture of motorway and london, although i'm getting 37 from the V6 3 ltr Merc, so quite happy
Bye bye S60... :-( - gmac
So the question is DP, what are you replacing such an excellent car with ?

The granite of the 2005MY onwards is not a solid as the earlier granite in my experience. I keep toying with the idea of changing mine but every car I think of has its knockers on here.
I thought of trying Japanese and quite fancied as Subaru but reading here they're not long for this world. Toyota are getting hammered in the press.

Then thought about a SEAT Exeo ST but again, according to some on here, they will be the next Rover.

Edited by gmac on 04/02/2010 at 12:11

Bye bye S60... :-( - DP
Thanks all. A very odd feeling watching someone else drive it away :-(

Picked up the replacement yesterday.

A 1999 Golf 1.8T GTI 5dr in Indigo Blue. One owner from new, FVWSH, clean for the age and miles (130k), and didn't cost me any extra, which was the point of the exercise. The guy had just bought a spanking new Scirocco and had been offered peanuts as PX from the dealer.

The choice was really based on the fact our 2002 TDI PD130 Golf has been pretty much faultless in the year we've had it, we both like driving it, and I can get a VW serviced and repaired cheaper than I can anything else. It's not as special as the Volvo was, but it's actually quite a giggle to drive.

My VW tech mate is doing a full service next weekend, fitting a new timing belt which is due, and giving it a full check over. I will report in more detail on it after this, and I've been using it for a week or so.

Early impressions are good. Lovely smooth, torquey engine, much more agile handling than the diesel version, superb Recaro seats, barely a rattle or creak, and if the computer is to be believed (and I suspect it's not), very surprising economy. The 39 mile return trip from Croydon to North Hampshire at a steady 70 odd with the odd prod to test the performance saw 48 mpg average on the display.

I will miss the Volvo, but this will do me for a year or two if it's reliable.

Cheers
DP

Bye bye S60... :-( - Alby Back
Sounds like fun DP. Hope it works for you. Of course it will already have stopped motorcyclists hating you ! ;-) I had a couple of GTis back along and thouroughly enjoyed them.
Bye bye S60... :-( - DP
Cheers Humph. I must admit, the biggest shock so far is realising how much the weight of the diesel engine affects the handling. The two cars are, drivetrain aside, identical, but the petrol feels so much better balanced. It's no Focus, but neither does it feel out of its depth when being hustled along. It has Michelin Pilot Exaltos all round which I've never had on a car before, and they seem very impressive.

What did you get economy wise from yours? I know from experience VAG computers tell porkies, but even allowing for the usual 10% optimism, I'm getting low 40's on the motorway. Of course, refuel time will tell for sure, but I am curious.
Bye bye S60... :-( - Alby Back
Both of mine were 1800s. The 8V did about 38mpg on average but the 16V was thirstier at about 31 mpg. Noticeably livelier though...

;-)
Bye bye S60... :-( - rtj70
Enjoy the car - I had exactly the same for around 6 months in 1999. The car had a firm ride which my (now) wife found a little uncomfortable. Mine had a few squeaks from new so you're lucky!

It didn't do to badly for economy I recall although I used it mostly on motorway trips back then. Replaced with a Passat 1.8T.
Bye bye S60... :-( - ifithelps
...the biggest shock so far is realising how much the weight of the diesel engine affects the handling...

Big difference in petrol/diesel Focuses as well - my diesel hatch was merely outstanding, whereas the petrol ones I tried were truly brilliant.

The CC3 handles a treat - it's easy to forget it has a folding roof which is a huge testament to Ford's engineers.

It is also nicely balanced, being heavy at both ends. :) Diesel engine in front, folding roof contraption at the back.



Bye bye S60... :-( - gmac
Good Luck with the VW. Cracking cars if they are big enough for your needs.
I had a '90 Mk2 GTi and loved that car. 38mpg replaced with a Pug 306XRdt which only gave 35mpg from the same routes and speeds.
Bye bye S60... :-( - The Melting Snowman
We've been Volvo customers since 1966 and wouldn't want to be without one. I prefer the big versions though such as the V70.

The recent cold weather has hammered home the truth that only the Swedes really understand how to make a car comfy and suitable for cold.

I hope the Chinese provide the funds but leave the rest to the Swedes.
Bye bye S60... :-( - ma
I have a Passat 1.8 T Estate 1999 done 170k usually does 40 ish on the motorway and high 20's around town. Brilliant car that I cannot bring myself to change!
Bye bye S60... :-( - DP
Good to know, thanks Matt. Maybe the computer isn't so far out then as the Golf is smaller/lighter. If it can do low-mid 40's on the commute, I'd be absolutely delighted.

Interesting engine. Felt a little disappointing after the PD130 as it doesn't really have any "shove" to it in comparison. Then you look at the speedo and realise it's going 20 mph quicker than you thought. Sooooo smooth as well. Not what I would call a great hot hatch engine, but then most people accept the mkIV Golf GTI wasn't really a great hot hatch. It is a very nice car to drive though. Smooth, fairly swift, gorgeous inside, and surprisingly decent handling.

Amusing fluttery noises from the turbo when you lift off as well. :-)


Edited by DP on 08/02/2010 at 11:04

Bye bye S60... :-( - rtj70
I stand to be corrected, but the Golf IV GTi was only badged GTi in the UK. A nice car. I liked mine when I had it.
Bye bye S60... :-( - DP
I stand to be corrected but the Golf IV GTi was only badged GTi in
the UK. A nice car. I liked mine when I had it.


I read that somewhere as well, and it wouldn't surprise me if it were true. To be honest, take the Recaros and the tailgate badge away and it's not radically different to a cooking model. A bit stiffer, a bit sharper, but otherwise much the same. I like it though. Usually takes me a few weeks to "bond" with a car, but I've grown quite attached to it after 2 days. Hard to put my finger on any one thing, but just a nice all round car. Has a certain feelgood factor to it.

Cheers
DP
Bye bye S60... :-( - Alby Back
Well now y'see there was obviously a GTi man lurking all that time in the Volvo ! He just needed to be set free. Not having any compulsions to grow designer stubble as well by any chance ?

;-)
Bye bye S60... :-( - cheddar
I stand to be corrected but the Golf IV GTi was only badged GTi in the UK. A nice car. I liked mine when I had it.>>


As I recall there was also a non turbo 1.8 GTi in the UK and this was not badged as GTi in other countries. This was later replaced by an n/a 2.0 GTi (along side the 1.8T) which used the older 8v engine, a bit more gutsy though less refined and a little less top end.