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Seven year old tyre - Frederick
I am in the process of changing cars and have a spare wheel and tyre which have never been used. Kept in the boot, not underslung. The DOT code shows that the tyre was manufactured in 2002 (Pirelli P6000). Is it safe to use this tyre now or should I bin it?

Thanks,
Frederick
Seven year old tyre - freddy1
might be passed its sell by date , ebay it?
Seven year old tyre - L'escargot
I googled for car tyre shelf life, and popular opinion seemed to be 6 to 7 years. However, none of the suggested lives was from a tyre manufacturer so I don't know whether 6 to 7 years is authoratitive. There are lots of falsehoods published on t'internet.

Edited by L'escargot on 22/01/2010 at 14:58

Seven year old tyre - ifithelps
I read somewhere tyres should be replaced at five years, irrespective of wear.

Most users would wear them out in fewer than five years, but I bet there are a lot of elderly spares around.

Seven year old tyre - L'escargot
I read somewhere tyres should be replaced at five years irrespective of wear.


But was the "somewhere" an authoratitive source of information?
Seven year old tyre - Bill Payer
Tyre manufacturers generally say 6 yrs.

Sorry if I'm missing something, but if you're getting rid of the car why not just leave it in the car?
Seven year old tyre - L'escargot
Tyre manufacturers generally say 6 yrs.


Can you provide evidence of that? I couldn't find a statement on the subject from a single manufacturer when I googled.

Edited by L'escargot on 22/01/2010 at 15:18

Seven year old tyre - Bill Payer
>> Can you provide evidence of that?

"Evidence"! This is the internet - you can say anything.

Michelin say check every year from 5 yrs old and replace at 10yrs:

www.michelin.co.uk/michelinuk/en/car-4x4-van/long-...l

Pirelli say have them checked by a tyre specialist. Doesn't tell you where to find one of those though!
Seven year old tyre - L'escargot
Michelin say check every year from 5 yrs old and replace at 10yrs:
www.michelin.co.uk/michelinuk/en/car-4x4-van/long-...l


That's what I wanted to see ~ a statement from a tyre manufacturer, rather than scuttlebutt.
Seven year old tyre - FotheringtonThomas
That's what I wanted to see ~ a statement from a tyre manufacturer


Although it is vague in the extreme, as one would expect, given the vagaries of tyre "wear".

"After 5 years or more in service"
"your tyres should be thoroughly inspected at least once per year"

Waffle. Inspect your tyres for defects at least monthly, give them the once-over weekly.

"As a precaution, if your tyres have not been replaced after 10 years of service life from the date of manufacture*, it is recommended that you replace your tyres"

That's the only concrete statement. 10 years.
Seven year old tyre - freddy1
also a lot depends on having ultra violet light shone on it (ie daylight) ,

rubber compounds do go hard over the yrs , i would be suprised if the origional tyre would match a new one?
Seven year old tyre - FotheringtonThomas
If it looks OK (not perished/cracked) use it, give it the once-over when you examine your other tyres weekly.
Seven year old tyre - madf
No..

I used six years old tyres on a caravan . They were brand new and unused and stored in the dark. They both lasted under 200 miles: the sidewalls collapsed and blew out..

IIRC the theory is that the rubber becomes inflexible through never flexing.. and when it starts to flex it tends to split.. but wdik?


Seven year old tyre - Frederick


"Sorry if I'm missing something, but if you're getting rid of the car why not just leave it in the car? "

It's fitted to a never-been-used alloy wheel. I was hoping to recoup some useful cash. I have a space saver to go back in the boot.

But I don't want to sell the wheel and tyre combo if it's going to be dangerous - I would rather get it removed and just sell the wheel.
The tyre looks as new and has been in the dark from new, but:

"I used six years old tyres on a caravan . They were brand new and unused and stored in the dark. They both lasted under 200 miles: the sidewalls collapsed and blew out."

That makes my mind up I think.

Thanks all,
Frederick
Seven year old tyre - FotheringtonThomas
Ooops - pressed button by mistake.

Edited by FotheringtonThomas on 22/01/2010 at 16:33

Seven year old tyre - piston power
If it's been inflated all the time kept in a dry boot it should still be safe to use cars are around today with tyres much older than that, recomended to replace at 7 years when been out in the elements.

Me id use it so sell it be honest in the description and leave it up to the buyer.
Seven year old tyre - FotheringtonThomas
I used six years old tyres on a caravan . They were brand new and
unused and stored in the dark. They both lasted under 200 miles: the sidewalls collapsed
and blew out..


ROFL - don't use wheelbarrow tyres in future. See above post re Mitchelin recommendations.
Seven year old tyre - Cliff Pope
>> I used six years old tyres on a caravan . the sidewalls
collapsed
>> and blew out..



Mine did that. I don't run them longer than 40 years now. :)

I've just replaced a tractor tyre at 60 years because the inner tube was starting to bulge through the holes.
Seven year old tyre - cheddar
Fine as a spare if needed then when the dameged tyre is repaired/replaced put it back in the boot.

Out 11 year old Clio has a brand "new" unused Michelin in the boot.
Seven year old tyre - Robin Reliant
Dream Car Garage on whichever of the digi channels featured a low mileage restored 1957 something or other recently which was still on it's original four tyres.

Not that I'm advocating that, of course.
Seven year old tyre - freddy1
about 5 yrs ago i put a "barn find" 1955 bsa bantam back on the road , this sailed thu the MOT ,

however , i got caught in the rain one night ,

Teflon is not the word?


old tyres go hard , and umm ,,, don,t work
Seven year old tyre - ifithelps
When I lived on the farm we had a large flatbed trailer used mostly for shifting bales.

It ran for years with the canvas showing where the tyre tread should have been.

The tyres must have been 15 or 20 years old, maybe more.

It did very little roadwork, and I suppose there's virtually no tyre wear at all trundling over pasture and stubble at a fast walking pace.

Tyres still had to carry the weight, of course.

Seven year old tyre - Hugo {P}
I guess it would be safer to put an older tyre on the back axle would it not?

I made a bit of a career out of using 2nd hand tyres in the past and never had any issues, bar one bubble on a sidewall that was not age related - the tyre was only about 2 years old. I used to come over all exited when I found a perfectly brand new spare in the boot, and the breakers would only want £5 for it! One assumes that a lot of these were as old as the car they came out of, yet I had no problems.

I've just examined a perfectly new spare I've just picked up for the almera for £10 on a brand new rim. This has sat in the wheel well in the back of a car since new. It's not the original spare but I think it's 02. When the rear tyres need replacing I was thinking of using that plus perhaps the existing spare, hence flushing out the older tyres that we have.

As has been said, there are many factors that affect how well a tyre ages, and storage is one of them. Even tyres kept in the dark may have been near chemicals or a heat source - or may have just been stored badly.

Also, trailer tyres are not manufactured to the same standards demanded for cars and other motor vehicles. Hence it is possible that cheaper manufacturing processes, maybe by an inferior manufacturer, have lead to a shorter shelf life. I do wonder if both tyres blowing out on a caravan was an age related issue though- 6 years really isn't that old. How many trailers and caravans out there have their tyres changed every 3 to 4 years? Very few I would have thought. They're changed when the tread is low or when they get damaged. My Ifor Williams trailer is still on its original set and they will get changed when the sidewalls become suspect or earlier if they warrent it.

Even the rear tyres on my van are original - put on in 2004.
Seven year old tyre - bell boy
good post Hugo {P}
i agree with it all
Seven year old tyre - zookeeper
my original spare is 13 years old, i dont remember the MOT bloke getting a flap on over it
Seven year old tyre - Dynamic Dave
The tyres on my Honda CB125TDC are approx 19 yrs old (Barum make). No signs of cracks or other fatigue marks in them yet.

Edited by Dynamic Dave on 25/01/2010 at 13:50

Seven year old tyre - bathtub tom
I'll bet you'd notice the difference if you fitted new rubber.
Seven year old tyre - Dynamic Dave
bt, the motorbike probably covers 100 miles a year at most. It's primary function is a backup for the car, but on the odd occasion I do take it out I can lean it right over on bends until the footpegs touch the ground. I don't think new tyres would make any difference to the grip it already has.
Seven year old tyre - bathtub tom
That surprises me.

I'm currently using the old tyres that were on one of my cars when I bought it. I'm looking forward to fitting some fresh rubber.

I don't think I'd be happy with the level of grip I'm getting if I were on two wheels.

Edited by bathtub tom {p} on 25/01/2010 at 19:59

Seven year old tyre - Dynamic Dave
The bike has been garaged all its life, and only been used for a couple of months in the winter back in 1987 or 88 when I wrote off a previous car. The rest of its life it has only ever seen dry days.

I'm sure it it had been left out in all weathers, and used in all weathers, the tyres would have suffered. Mind you, had I used it more regularly they would have probably worn out by now and new ones fitted anyway ;o)
Seven year old tyre - Andrew-T
Depends what your driving habits demand from your tyres. I am happy driving my Pug 205 with tyres (unused until last year) that are almost as old as the car. I realise there can be good reasons for changing tyres which show surface cracking, etc, but throwing them out just because of a date stamp is unnecessary. They don't go off like yogurt or fish, especially if kept in the dark at a moderate temperature.
Seven year old tyre - L'escargot
I realise there can be good reasons for changing tyres which show surface cracking etc
but throwing them out just because of a date stamp is unnecessary. They don't go
off like yogurt or fish especially if kept in the dark at a moderate temperature.


Exactly. My car gets maintained regardless of cost, but I'm satisfied with the condition of the 7 year old rear tyres because they get a regular inspection and the car is garaged whenever possible and not left out all the time at the mercy of the elements like some cars. The tyres will get changed when it's physically necessary, and not because of the date stamp.

Edited by L'escargot on 26/01/2010 at 06:37

Seven year old tyre - Waino
Last month, the 8+ year old space-saver came out for the first time after my wife's Focus suffered a puncture. It was fine. [I always keep it well inflated]

As bad luck would have it, a rear tyre had suffered a clean nail puncture, then 3 weeks later, a ragged hole was caused in the same tyre by what I thought was a sharp flint. This second one wrote the tyre off, but when I collected the car, I discovered that the problem had been caused by a bone!