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Car was taken in for tyre rotation last November - the tread was down to 4mm then - two months later and 2000 miles later they were down to the wear bar indicators, so a change was deemed. Handbook say that the standard 225/65x17s are "winter" tyres and they do have an M&S mark on them. Despite being close to the bone, they performed very well in the recent bad weather, never losing traction (apart from one slide down an iced up hill when I "forgot" to come off the brakes ! - it sorted itself out once I took my foot off the brake !) - never losing traction or giving any "moments" - the upshot of this was that with real world experience of the Conti Contacts that came on the car as OE had performed well enough in all areas to be replaced with the same. Web prices seemed to be around 142 pounds each ! However Kwik Fit had an online offer of 99 pounds each (fitted) - my local branch of National happily under cut this by a fiver - so they got the deal. Bolts were powered off and re-applied by hand and torqued to the factory setting so got myself a good deal (I hope) - COSTCO membership can go and whistle now !
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Well sourced PU. I got two new Bridgestone Duellers on the ( front ;-0 ) of the Squashy before Christmas. At that time KF were much cheaper than any other quotes I could get if you paid upfront online. They, without asking, filled them with nitrogen and put green dustcaps on to prove it. I was ocd enough to change them back to black ones!
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Sounds like a cracking deal for branded tyres.
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Sounds like a very good deal. I'll be due for a replacement on a CRVII in the Spring and will have a look at the Contis (the Duellers have been good in the snow but I've never felt that they're brilliant in the wet - maybe I'm too heavy footed).
HB - do you know if there was an option to fill the tyres with Helium rather than Nitrogen? A little less weight might help performance/economy!
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www.blackcircles.com/
Try these next time they offer a fitting service & very good relable company.
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£520 for the same bit of kit. Used them before - they were pretty good.
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I don't really mind if they fill them with stale fag smoke to be honest as long as they don't put those silly wee green dustcaps on.
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Blackcircles are good bought summer tyres from there last spring.
So are mytyres.co.uk -- used just the other day. These guys give you online tracking for your order which blackcircles have never done for me before.
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HB - do you know if there was an option to fill the tyres with Helium rather than Nitrogen? A little less weight might help performance/economy!
This is a this a joke? Someone please tell us how much weight would be saved.
alfalfa
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Kwik Fit offered Nitrogen as a cost option. Load of nonsense old fashioned air does the job.
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Would you like my little green dustcaps PU so you can pretend not to be mean ?
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Good idea - some suppliers offer tin valve covers for a quid each per wheel !
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>>Handbook say that the standard 225/65x17s are "winter" tyres and they do have an M&S >>mark on them. Despite being close to the bone, they performed very well in the recent bad >>weather,
My experience with my 19,000 mile worn Michelins on the CRV II was the same. I'll bear in mind Contis as an option - I didn't find the Duelers as good.
I can't change the car anyway, because I haven't found one that is more practical and likeable. Maybe the diesel auto CRV III will tempt me eventually.
And I filled up tonight before my 18 mile journey home. The trip computer shows 48.5mpg.
Vile things these 4x4s!
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M&S without a 'snowflake and mountain' marking might mean that the tyre just has a tread pattern for ooze.) But not a compound for cold weather. Its not a very obvious marking on the sidewall TBH. Just fitted a set of Nokian WR G2 tyres to the wifely Jazz. Brief drive via our iced-up cul-de-sac on an incline - seems fine. Some neighbours had to crawl as the ice was too slick to stand:)
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Holy smoke. £100 per tyre! My goodness. Some tyres cost a fortune. 3 tyres cost me £105 from a Ford dealer, for a 1.6 Focus.
i am in shock. I not going to buy an expensive new car, they cost too much to keep on the road.
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>>M&S without a 'snowflake and mountain' marking might mean that the tyre just has a tread pattern for ooze.)
Seems unlikely, given that the S is for snow, and warm snow is unusual?
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The M&S markings are untested, so almost any "ruggesised" tyre might have that, even those built in the tropics:) The snowflake logo is given after testing in cold conditions. SFAIK. There is plenty of info about the differences already noted on this site
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I'll check my tyres - if Michelin are producing M+S tyres with no snowflake then we should probably be looking for an explanation!
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Last week was sufficient "testing" for me - the car and tyres worked - any worse than that and we both stay at home. Not noticed a snowflake.
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Rob; what mileage did you get out of the original set of tyres?
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A smidgin iver 19k - mostly A and B roads odd bit of dual carriageway driving. Sadly I followed the rotation scheme and had to replace all four as they'd all worn evenly !
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19k off rotated tyres. Crikey, there must have been a fair bit of Mr Toad driving to jacobs them that quickly PU?
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Oh yes - still driving in a "spirited" way despite mimser pretensions.
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That's not too bad. SUV tyre wear seems a random - some of them eat tyres which could be real shock if you didn't know, and others last for ever.
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Just come off a 2-10 shift hence coming late onto thread. Back in morning for a 10-10. I was also going to ask what you got out of em Pug. It has been in my mind when the time comes to do a rotation. Sounds like you advise against, thus having only to replace a pair at a time, spreading cost is that right. Mine come with the conti's on and they seem a good set o shoes. I hope i get as good a deal as you Pug. I have only done 5000 to date.
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The handbook has sound advice on which tyres to replace and in which order....
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Had the wheels rotated on the CC3 at its first service earlier this week.
So I suppose I've teed myself up for having to buy four at once in the future.
Unit cost could be cheaper buying four, rather than two at a time.
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CRV-II automatic at least seems to wear pretty evenly Front-Rear so not sure if rotating is worthwhile, although the re-balancing is never going to hurt.
Bought CRV at 2yr/30k miles - original tyres (I think were Bridgestone 215/65-16) were around 3mm so the Honda dealer put a new set of BF Goodrich on. Acceptible tyre but at around 61-62k were down to about 3mm at each corner, never more than 1mm difference between tyres when routinely checking the wheels myself.
Replaced with Michelin Latitudes which have delivered MUCH better on-road handling (extra load sidewalls) with more feel and grip round corners particularly. Noise much the same (blame the double-wishbones!) but again wearing evenly - now at 80k miles all 4 tyres are at 5mm, and expecting perhaps 10-12k more wear before replacing.
Now what to do with the (original) spare tyre ?..... :-)
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Did you find the Michelins as stunningly good in the snow as I did?
It doesn't sound as if you're planning to mix the original Bridgestone? with the Michelins. I wouldn't - despite being nominally the same size, the Michelins were bigger in diameter than the Bridgestones, to the extent that I struggled to get the wheel cover on and the speedo reading dropped by 2-3mph as compared with the GPS!
The dealer warned me not to buy the Michelins saying I would complain about the ride - I can't say it bothers me. They were newish in February when we had the last lot of snow, and I put their superb traction down to the newness, but they have been just as good this year with 17,000 miles on.
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Perfectly well behaved in the snow, only feeling the power go to the rears when 'encouraged' with the right foot.
I also noted the slightly bigger radius of the Michelins - indicated 70mph is now 69mph on the GPS rather than 66-67mph previously.
Ride is not noticeably different than the BFGs that were on when I bought it.
5* tyres for the CRV anyway.
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And from me - considering it's price as good as most 4x4s - I have been slightly tempted by a Freelander but Satan has got behind me now after a good talking to.
Edited by Pugugly on 17/01/2010 at 10:53
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I have been slightly tempted by a Freelander ....................
Would have thought the Honda far superior unless you want to do serious off-roading? And then there's only one to consider - the good old Defender!
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Been there and done that - You're dead right though, there are some Freelander bargains out there but I don't need permanent 4x4. My only true regret with the Honda is I didn't go up a notch on the spec and got the leather etc...
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I've always liked the look of the Freelander.
They've had loads of criticism over the years, but it's the only car in that segment I'd consider.
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Yes, I've had some incredible trips in a Series 2 and 3. Totally amazed at what the things can get through and pull! I would love one but can't justify it at the moment! I would stick with the CRV, they look like a really nice bit of kit. Anyway I've moved your thread off topic, I have used e tyres and Black Circles and can recommend both 100%!
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No worries with topic creep !
Edited by Pugugly on 17/01/2010 at 11:18
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...No worries with topic creep !...
A carelessly placed comma in that sentence could lead to a misunderstanding.
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As could a carelessly done up jubilee clip !
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..As could a carelessly done up jubilee clip !...
Funny you should say that, I agonised over whether to use the term 'Jubilee clip' in a generic 'Hoover for vacuum cleaner ' type of way.
If I was in a rare (?) pedantic mood then 'worm drive hose clip' would be the way to go.
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Black Circles are just a tyre distributor, albeit well organized and have low prices. Their fitting is done by independent local garages, or even main dealers in my experience, skill/reputation of the local fitters in not damaging my car is as important as the low prices. I've also searched on 'my tyres' and they can be just as cheap.Finding out which local garages do the actually fitting is just as important as the prices. I've mostly used ATS in Buxton who will price match locally, the care of my vehicle and convenience being top class.At that branch.
Otherwise I'd use National Tyres in Chesterfield who'd done a great job, on several levels, on the old Corsa and SWMBO Getz. Heard them price matching on the phone if the potential customer would bring car in now. A good sales technique.
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That's why I asked my local National branch to match the Kwik Fit online price - I've used the National branch for years and trust them. The manager is a motorcyclist which means in my experience more attention to detail in mechanical terms. Local KF are an unknown quantity to me personally.
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should have gone up a spec and got leather. same here Pug..
Edited by Brentus on 18/01/2010 at 00:00
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Too late now - one good thing the back seats on mine have carried tons of "stuff" over the last few months, the cloth seats come up as good as new when I can be bothered to clean them. Doubt whether leather would have benefited from that sort of punishment.
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