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Most incompetent snow driver - Dipstick
Can I claim the Incompetency Award if there is one?

Got stuck in the snow on the drive this morning - literally two yards progress to get out of the garage, then waited for Mrs D to get in, then stuck fast.

Lights all over the dash, engine roaring, engine tickover, forward, reverse, rocking, nothing would shift it.

Went through all sorts of ideas with Mrs D - pushing, shovelling, finding something to go under the wheels, calling breakdown service, neighbours, tow rope - all sorts of ideas.

Tempers rose. Heavy sighing and hand gestures. Alternative arrangements for day discussed. Telephone calls to make, plans to put in place for cover, working from home, an ever increasing imbroglio.

Then I discovered I'd left the handbrake on, so I took it off and we drove to work.
Most incompetent snow driver - BobbyG
In short - yes you can!
Most incompetent snow driver - jc2
Good h/brake!!
Most incompetent snow driver - Cliff Pope
It's not a good omen for the day, and doesn't put you in the right frame of mind for tackling real snow.
I was expecting a punch-line that you ran over the cat on the way down the drive.
Most incompetent snow driver - Dipstick
We don't have a cat as we are Not Partial, big style. The neighbours do, and their animals are something of a nuisance for those of us who prefer the garden not to be molested in various disgusting ways, or to find little wind-fluttered corpses underfoot.

I'd never, of course, run over their cats in my drive if I were to see one there. It's true I do shut my eyes a lot and hope.

This a joke, for the hard of understanding. Do not send me hate letters written in green ink.
Most incompetent snow driver - henry k
>>I was expecting a punch-line that you ran over the cat on the way down the drive.
>>
Or the cable to the battery charger had secured your car to the house.
Most incompetent snow driver - gordonbennet
Your not alone DS, i often try to pull away in the truck with the handbrake on or let the clutch up (yes an automated manual with a clutch pedal) without taking it out of gear when getting out.

There's just so much to think about now, and so many things to do before actually moving off.

Doesn't happen in the car too often, the foot operated parking brake seems so natural once your accustomed.

As CP says it doesn't do your mind set any good cursing your own idiocy before you've turned a wheel.
Most incompetent snow driver - dieseldogg
Why was the engine "roaring"?
Most incompetent snow driver - Dipstick
Why was the engine "roaring"?


Because I am an incompetent driver and was pressing hard on one of the pedals.
Most incompetent snow driver - barney100
Nice one! Thats as bad as when I called the AA out to my old Simca, lights all over the dash.....megabucks he lads said. AA guy put his head under the bonnet and produced a large spanner I had left in the engine bay from working there the day before whuch was shorting things out.....never lived it down. You get more abuse from your mates than your enemies............
Most incompetent snow driver - stevied
Was it a Simca 1501? My dad had one of those when I was a young lad, our neighbour said he didn't need an alarm as my dad left for work at 7, and that was what time my neighbour had to get up! The engine was somewhat tappety....
Most incompetent snow driver - Happy Blue!
Dipstick - says it all really!

Sorry - couldn't resist. We have all done something totally stupid and in this period of heavy weather, stressful driving conditions, Christmas approaching and other things on your mind I am surprised there aren't more of us admitting to such things.
Most incompetent snow driver - Dipstick
Dipstick - says it all really!
Sorry - couldn't resist.


That's perfectly fine. When I joined here back in the mists of time I deliberately chose a name that would project a certain image of utter incompetence and worthlessness. Over the years, it has worked remarkably well I find.



Most incompetent snow driver - Big Bad Dave
I did the same thing yesterday Dipstick

I drove it forwards onto a pavement (as is allowed here) near a cash machine while my wife nipped out. The car was teetering on a small mountain of snow left by the snow ploughs so I pulled the handbrake on hard and kept foot on the brake as I was sliding back onto the road. I never use the handbrake so when my wife got back in I simply tried to reverse out (with the rear wheels locked) which wasn't easy, I just assumed I had become really bogged down. I struggled to get about twenty metres down the road before I noticed the warning light on.
Most incompetent snow driver - Altea Ego
Apart from romping away by a huge margin with the "klutz of the day" award, all I can say is that the weather wasnt too bad your way.

If I had done that the Altea would have come romping out the drive with the rear wheels locked and sliding on the ice.

The only way I would have noticed is the handbrake warning chime would have gone "ding ding ding" when i reached 15mph.....

Edited by Altea Ego on 22/12/2009 at 12:11

Most incompetent snow driver - Muggy
I saw a total idiot losing his grip on the road this morning.

The road I live in is a crescent and the elbow of it consists of two 90° corners with about 50ft of straight between them. This straight gets next to no sunlight on it at this time of year and was completely covered in clearly visible ice that had built up over several days.

His rear end slid out to the left about ¾ the way along this straight - he was doing about 30mph+ at the time(!), somehow he managed to strighten it up as he went round the right hand corner and then shot off down the road at a similar speed!
Most incompetent snow driver - Badwolf
Dipstick, I would like to thank you from the heart of my bottom for giving me a much needed giggle. Very amusing!

I was on a country road earlier that was covered in compacted snow that was just turning to slush. Some utter numpty in a Seat came roaring along in the opposite direction right up the chuff of somebody who was driving according to the conditions. As he jabbed the anchors on, he lost it and thumped into the kerb. The look on the hard-of-thinking idiot's face was priceless. I'd swear that he was genuinely puzzled as to how that had happened.

Most incompetent snow driver - diddy1234
Over the last few days I have seem some terrible driving.

Driving in last nights snow showed some people (who had just finished Christmas shopping) were not giving any distance between them and the car in front, braking abruptly and sliding.

This was not a one off, I counted ten near crashes and lots of abandoned cars at or near the side of the road.

I am sure if people had a spike fitted on their steering wheel (pointing at the driver) they would drive alot more carefully.
Most incompetent snow driver - Bagpuss
Dipstick - award for the most entertaining post I can remember reading this year. I almost never use the handbrake so inevitably forget to release it when I have applied it, and who looks at the warning lights anyway.

In a similar vein I almost never drive cars with a manual transmission any more, so inevitably forget to take the car out of gear before trying to start it, though I've not actually lurched into anything yet. Sadly, the Audi A3 I recently drove removed that little bit of fun from my life by not letting me start the car without depressing both brake and clutch pedals first.
Most incompetent snow driver - 1400ted
Not a personal 'Dipstick ' moment, but close to home....
Was in Asda this morning when I got a call. SIL and Son had called round 'cos the Blingo Van had no brake lights. ' Have a look and check the bulbs and I'll be back in half an hour ' Got
home, they'd been for new bulbs and still no luck.
Told them how to check the pedal switch with my multi meter 'cos no way was I kneeling in the snow ! They brought the switch in the house and it was fine.
Checked the power to the switch on the van and that was ok. Got one of them to sit in the van as we checked the rear fitting..nothing. Thought to meself 'Just a mo, trailer socket wire is red for brakes and this one is Scotchloked into a different bulb holder
Long story short...they'd only taken out the Rear fog bulbs, we'd been checking that bulbholder...put new 21/5s in the correct place and all was well.

It's Turnip Time again !

Ted
Most incompetent snow driver - smokie
While I can't disagree that not all drivers are perfect, I do think some of you are being a bit harsh. I've completed my IAM (for what it's worth) and regard myself as a reasonable driver. But during the long journey home last night even my car (yes, me driving too!) skidded a few times. As stated elsewhere, the trick is leave yourself enough space to cope with it if it does.

But what when it starts to slide from stationary, with handbrake on? I had been outside Bracknell Station for about 5 mins, happily sat there with the handbrake on and space between me and the car in front. The road is hardly an incline at all, but the car just started to slide. Luckily I was quickly onto the foot brake which stopped it (but pressing on that for the next 50+ minutes was a bit tedious).

When you are 5 hours into a 5 mile journey it's all too easy for us mere mortals to start thinking about other stuff and concentrating less on their driving - like should I do the sensible thing and ditch the car (but incur the wrath of the BR for doing so), when will I next see the family, I've missed the evening out I had planned, will my next meal be dinner or breakfast and I need a Wii.

If all the perfect drivers in the BR were to be given their own road to use, there'd be an awful lot more space for us imperfect but honest people to make a mess of :-)


btw Disptick thanks Vm for the laugh!

Edited by Webmaster on 26/12/2009 at 01:16

Most incompetent snow driver - dieseldogg
But Smokie should those without the necessary brain function to work out that perhaps they might need a bit / a lot more room, in slippery conditions.
be allowed to drive?
Plus if conditions are that bad I do not see how one could slip into a happy daze.
I should therefore be allowed to drive with several pints in me.
My judgement would apparently therefore be as good? as some of the above.
que?
Most incompetent snow driver - smokie
Yes, there are people who drive idiotically and downright dangerously. My point wasn't aimed at anyone or any incident in particular, but just a general observation about why "ordinary" drivers might not always get it right.

I would suggest the dieseldogg hasn't driven in rally bad conditions - heavy snow at night can be very disorientating on it's own, not forgetting that you can't see road markings, kerbs, junctions, signs are obscured, journey times are longer, there are kamikaze idiots trying to kill you. What all that and the heater turned up because of the cold it is easy to drop your concentration for a short time. Try it sometime! :-)
Most incompetent snow driver - Badwolf
I understand your point Smokie, but the fellow I mentioned before was an out and out nutter. It would probably have been better if he'd have stuffed his car into a field. At least he'd have been off the road for a bit...
Most incompetent snow driver - bristol01
I once hired a car in the States which had an auto gearbox. Jumped in, put it into gear, pressed my foot on the accelerator, nothing happened. Took me a while to get used to the fact that there was no clutch...I had my left foot firmly on the brake pedal.

Most incompetent snow driver - dieseldogg
Well norn ireland is only a wee place so its more difficult to drive for hours & hours.
but at 50 odd I reasonably bin there, freezing fog the lot
yes driving snow is mesmersing
Not offended btw
Ps I was stopped by the Police a number of years ago after I undertook them on a wee country road on a bend through roadworks, over the cut stones, I did NOT realize there were the Polis ye ken.
The grilled me but decided ( I concluded) that perhaps i knew the road better than they did.
a lot to be said for being a farmers son
Most incompetent snow driver - piston power
I would suggest the dieseldogg hasn't driven in rally bad conditions -

I would love to drive a rally in bad conditions.!!
Most incompetent snow driver - Lud
I used to enjoy skating about, but I don't like it nearly so much these days. Much more, much less competent traffic is part of the reason, but I suppose timid puling verging-on-middle-age may count for even more.

Thinking back to the winter of 62-3 in a hired Victor, I believe many here would have seen me then as a dangerous lunatic, although I didn't crash. One thing I can remember doing, usually successfully, several times is overtaking people on a dual carriageway whose nearside lane had been cleared of snow but whose outside lane had six inches of virgin stuff on it. If I thought someone was mimsing I would come up behind at a good speed and just overtake them in the snowy outside lane, charging through the cleared stuff piled along the edge of the nearside lane and working hard at the steering as one has to under those circumstances, and trying not to be alarmed by the snow crashing and scraping along the underside of that surprisingly useful vehicle.

I don't think I would do it now unless I came up behind Rattle, or peterpiperpickedapeckapickledpeppers of the NIP thread, 'being sensible' as they see it. Just don't have enough energy to devote to superfluous effort these days.

:o}

Edited by Lud on 22/12/2009 at 18:06

Most incompetent snow driver - Lud
peterpiper


It has just occurred to me that one possible line of investigation for him might be the wronged motorist website Pepipoo...

That Victor had a damn good heater too, General Motors, fit for the great plains in midwinter...
Most incompetent snow driver - Manatee
>>Can I claim the Incompetency Award

No. I got there first. Went out after snow had fallen one day last week. No special problem, started up, switched bum warmer and screen/mirror heating on, swept the snow off, cleared the ice, and went.

I did manage to carry a fair clump of snow into the car though which of course makes a puddle and helps steam the windows up. So when I came home and the snow was still there, I was seized with the brilliant idea that I would park a couple of feet to the left of where the car had been so I would have a clear patch to stand in prior to getting in the car next time.

While I was carefully judging my position so as to leave a snow-free boarding area, I hit the house with the other front corner and took paint off the bumper :-(
Most incompetent snow driver - Lud
With reference to the admirably un-selfimportant Dipstick's OP, I just had the thought that if he had the chains on his front wheels recommended in another thread, and the rear wheels had been on ice or snow instead of the dry bit just outside his garage, he could have driven amusingly down the road dragging his rear wheels (like a dog with worms I am tempted to say).

:o}
Most incompetent snow driver - M.M
This morning it was -6deg in the exposed Fen here so not amazed when none of the doors would open on the Mondeo... handles would pull but didn't operate the latch mechanism. Thought hot water might refreeze and cause more problems so found the extension lead and hair dryer. Spent quite a few minutes on the drivers door but it still wouldn't budge. Pondered a bit more then decided perhaps getting the plip & unlocking the car might help....
Most incompetent snow driver - Dipstick
That's excellent. If it's a daily relay race then I hand over yesterday's Klutz Award that AE gave me to you, M.M.

Most incompetent snow driver - dieseldogg
Bigtee, ould hand, as they say over here.
Hmmmmm
Nah not worth it.
However
I never bin a rally driver, but I can drive in poor conditions well enough, and apparently from the evidence of this forum, and indeed personal observations, a hellavue lot better than many others.
Cheers
M
PS
I went a run to Belfast there in our wee lorry for salt, no other volunteers, I thought blinking heck... hell this is going to take forever...... then realized I was reading kilometers instead of miles.
PPs
I then spent most of the journey passimg mimsers on the dual carrigeway & motorway.
Bah humbug

Edited by dieseldogg on 23/12/2009 at 15:17

Most incompetent snow driver - M.M
I will happily carry the award for a day or two until someone more foolish comes along :-)
Most incompetent snow driver - BobbyG
Came into my estate last night in the works FWD Tranny van.
Long straight road, maybe 30 yards and there are a couple of parked cars.
Car is slowly coming the other way so I stop by kerb and wait.

Car is one of those Astra Nurburgring things with a baseball capped driver behind the wheel.

Car is going from spinning wheels, to locking ABS wheels. Car is all over the place (this is on level soft snow). As he is pulling alongside me, he spins his wheels again and he ends up bumper to bumper with me. He finally drives past, winds down the window, and gives me a mouthful!
And I hadn't moved an inch since he started his manoeuvre! Obviously didn't have a clue how to drive in the snow.
I put van into second gear, and carried on without a hint of wheel spin, ABS lock or whatever!
Most incompetent snow driver - Lud
Further to what I now see were rather boastful posts, I can think of at least two pieces of, er, imprudent driving on snow one of which cost me, the other of which didn't.

They are both far too embarrassing, and far too boring, to mention. But to make up for that reticence, there were two of them.
Most incompetent snow driver - Pugugly
Tease.
Most incompetent snow driver - dieseldogg
Bah humbug