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The car has been a non starter four times this past week and towed twice in one week to a garage with no fault being diagnosed (no fault codes are displayed). Please forgive my ignorance of the technicalities of cars being of the female species..... The car turns over however does not start. Has been problematic since the colder weather and is the same recurring problem last year whcih cost me over £400 in fault finding but no fault ascertained. More recently I have had glow plugs tested to be informed all OK, checks for air in the fuel system and the battery replaced. The breakdown guys believe it to be the low pressure pump in the fuel tank however garage says otherwise. How is it the breakdown mechanics can spray ether into the air intake pipe and it fires up? It gets towed to a garage and they then have no trouble starting the car. The car returns home for the problem to reoccur within a couple of days. Only yesterday having got it back did I experience the loss of power when driving home and despite the accelerator being depressed to the floor there was very little power even when changing up through the gears. So surprise surprise it was a non starter this morning. This car has put a dent of £2.5 K in my bank balance since owning it from Aug 2007 and I am now thinking it is time to cut my losses however am unable to trade it in due to existing problem. Any advice regarding likely fault would be greatly appreciated.
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the fact that your car fires up with a sniff of easy start (brake cleaner) certainly indicates to me is either contaminated fuel or possible fault within fuel line connections.
filter housing. If it were me i would start with replacing fuel lines and filter housing.
very recently we had to go down this road. To solve a similar problem hope this helps
Best Reguards Mickey bo
location Derry N/Ireland
It's better to learn from others than to learn from our own mistakes
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It could be a number of things. Diagnosis at a distance and without seeing the car is very difficult.
I would tend to agree with the post above, as a starting point. We have seen quite a number of these where the fuel unions are allowing air into the system. It would give the kind of symptoms you mention.
Once you get it running I advise getting rid of it. The HDi are too troublesome. Get a petrol engined car at this age, or if you really want a diesel go for one with a VW 1.9TDI engine, like the Fabia, Octavia, Golf etc. They still go wrong from time to time, but they are easier for us poor techs to fix and you are more likely to get it fixed first time.
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Hi WorkshopTech, thank you for your post. Please see my response to the other post. I quite agree with you I will trade this car in, if I can it get it to start without the aid of easy start, as I am too honest to trade it in knowing the likelihood the forecourt will have a non starter the following day.
This is my second and very last french car. I will suggest to Panda Cars in Fareham, Hampshire to check the fuel unions as I do not believe anyone has looked into that. Once the problem is diagnosed I will certainly post as it may help some other poor owner of a Peugeot 307!
Regards...
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Hi Workshoptech,
I have been reading other forums re the issue of cold start for 307 SW 2.0 HDi and despite all the changes recommended re Fuel pumps/lines, crankshaft position sensors etc I have three posts whereby the problem was the starter motor. One of the threads mentioned had the car been bump started but there was no response to this. I know one mechanic had the car towed and having bump started it, it fired up and drove ok after that. What does the bump starting do. Could it be the starter motor? I know in the really cold weather after turning the car over a handful of times the car battery died despite being a new one.
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Hi, thank you for your post and as this is a repeat problem from last year whereby fault was never located but having had the car stripped down and filters replaced it seemed OK i can rule out contaminated fuel. I have had the fuel lines checked and I have had my car returned just after my posting only to find it going back to the garage the following day. Once the car is warmed up it will start for the rest of the day. Leave overnight in this cold weather and it turns over but does not fire up which is why three previous mechanics were pointing to the low pressure and high pressure fuel pump. However, the fact the car goes well once warmed up, with the aid of easy start, suggests it is neither of these.
My next stop once my car is returned, as I had the privilege of paying for a new injector as I was told this was faulty and the cause of the problems I will have to bite the bullet and take it to a diesel specialist.
Many thanks again for your response.
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Hi vab,
Did you manage to resolve your problem with starting? Cause I have similar problem. My car isn`t starting in the mornings - it didn`t quite oftenly even in summer time. Few mechanics was trying to resolve it and nothing. They changed the fuel pump, glow plug transmitter ( cause , like they said it was broken), and it didn`t help. On diagnose in Peugeot service in Birmingham they told me that as a first instance I should change starter motor and battery - and they wanted to charge me 700 pounds for this!! my car is 2001, 2.0 engine with 110 bhp and its value is maybe 2500, so I haven`t done it yet. But later on other mechanics said it could be something else. Beside this I have problem with EVAP (FAP) filter, which causing lost of power sometimes. But If I gave my car a longer run on a motorway, the problem with filter disappear for sometime... (it will appear again after 2-3 weeks of driving in town) - some of mechanics think that this two problem can be connected. Anybody have any idea?
Anyway, I brought today a starter motor (not new - from scrap yard) and I will try to fit this to see if its help. Battery should be all right as I have been told... I will let know what will be the result...
If you resolve your problem let us know, please... it can be very useful...
Best regards,
Paul
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Hi Paul, problem still not resolved. I have had no car for 3 weeks now and I am getting desperate as I need the car for work. I have been informed it is not the camshaft sensor or the starter motor as previous threads have suggested. There is not fault code readings so the mechanic suspects it is something of minor cost (having spent a fortune on fault finding and replacing or checking parts that were fine!). I have had all my injectors removed and tested and apparently one was faulty and replaced to the cost of £250.00 incl of labour. I see someone has kindly posted and suggested to check the diesel filter first so I have now passed this information on to my mechanic. I will keep you updated with any progress.
Regards
Vanda
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