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Wet carpets - worth rejecting? - BobbyG
My sister got a brand new Aygo Blue in mid Sept under the scrappage deal.
She has complained for a few weeks that its windows are misting up a lot but I thought that was just the usual issue re using air con.
But she now tells me her carpets are soaking, front and back.

I have just googled and it would appear this is a major issue with Aygos and, as far as I can see, Toyota don't have a fix for it.

I just have visions now of this car going in and out of the dealer for the next 6 months trying to fix something that Toyota don't seem to have a fix for. And her losing faith in her wee car.

Would this be grounds for rejecting the car? Can she get money back even though it is scrappage or does she need to accept another Aygo?
Wet carpets - worth rejecting? - piston power
She has got to give them a chance to fix this before she starts demanding a swap or cash back it "might" be just a simple seal.
Wet carpets - worth rejecting? - bell boy
but a seal is an awful lot of weight to carry around
could she swap it for a small dolphin?
Wet carpets - worth rejecting? - dxp55
Dunno about Seal but his wife would do nicely.
Wet carpets - worth rejecting? - daveyjp
It is an issue for SOME Aygos, 107s and C1s, including our Aygo which after 2.5 years of no bother started wicking water at the base of the driver's side rear door. New door seals, additional rain gutters and seals at teh top of the doors and a new carpet were fitted, it hasn't leaked since.

Being an original model our front speakers are in the dash, on current models they are in the doors and as part of the fix Toyota will also replace the door speaker membranes as water can leak there too.

So there are cases, but Toyota has identified a fix. Toyota Aygo owners club site has more information.

You need to let them carry out this work before you can reject the car.
Wet carpets - worth rejecting? - dimdip
If it's been wet for a while, you can get mould setting in, with accompanying odour which is a worry in a new car. Once the leak is identified and fixed, it really needs to have the carpets removed to indoors for a while to ensure everything is fully dried out. Makes me wonder how well a dealer would actually do this...
Wet carpets - worth rejecting? - Jcoventry
From what I've read, water leaks are common on many small cars. New Ford Ka and Ford Fiesta both have water leak problems - I should know, I read the Ford Owners Club forum every day. And guess what, so do the old ones too. If you read the HJ CBC page about the Aygo, water leak problems are mentioned.
Wet carpets - worth rejecting? - Robin Reliant
From what I've read water leaks are common on many small cars. >>


Tell me about it. Mrs RR's Saxo was shipping in water through the sunroof like theres no tomorrow. I've had to seal it shut with Tiger Seal, and also round the base of the radio arial where more was getting in.

Visit a Saxo forum and you will find it is such a common problem that there is often literally one new poster every day asking for advise on a fix.
Wet carpets - worth rejecting? - Jcoventry
RR - that's easy. Just never get a car with a sunroof. :-)
Wet carpets - worth rejecting? - bell boy
RR - that's easy. Just never get a car with a sunroof. :-)

> do you know thats one of the banes of my job
proper fitted factory roofs DONT leak
its when they are ill maintained not maintained or fitted by a monkey that leaks develop
Wet carpets - worth rejecting? - bathtub tom
I was surprised to see a Peugeot sunroof apparently had a connection to the inlet manifold. This created a vacuum that pulled it into its rubber seal.

What do they do on diesels, connect to the brake servo vacuum pump?
Wet carpets - worth rejecting? - Dave_TD
What do they do on diesels ... ?


Leak, presumably.
Wet carpets - worth rejecting? - old crocks
I had a petrol 205 with a sunroof like that. When the handle was pulled down the vacuum was used to suck the air out of the seal to allow the sunroof to open. So you can't open the sunroof without starting the engine.

I had a leak somewhere but never found out where.
Wet carpets - worth rejecting? - L'escargot
Once the leak is identified and
fixed it really needs to have the carpets removed to indoors for a while to
ensure everything is fully dried out. Makes me wonder how well a dealer would actually
do this...


I would expect a big dealership which has a bodyshop to have a "hotroom" into which they could put the whole car.
Wet carpets - worth rejecting? - BobbyG
Thanks for feedback so far, car is booked in to dealer on Friday, I can sense an ongoing update thread starting......
Wet carpets - worth rejecting? - BobbyG
To update, car went into dealer and they replaced seals underneath as well as in the door speakers. Also replaced the full carpets so certainly good service so far, with no resistance from the dealer to help.
Will see if that hasd cured the problem.
Wet carpets - worth rejecting? - paul2007
the bottom line is this:
many probs reported with small cars & water leaks
the car may have rusted - need to check unter the carpets/etc.
car will need the summer weather to heat up the inside for hours and dry out.
personally i'd reject the car.
Wet carpets - worth rejecting? - bell boy
paul2007 on what grounds would you consider a rejection?
dealer has bent over backwards and hopefully problem cured,i for one would be happy if seals were removed from under my car because lets face it they do eat plenty of fish
Wet carpets - worth rejecting? - Jcoventry
If the car was repaired properly at a dealer with a workshop, then they will have fully dried it out - it should have been bone dry when the customer collected the car. I'm speaking from experience of how a Ford Accident & Repair centre solved a water leak on my car. Actually Ford was good enough to replace the underlay with new underlay as it was sodden.
Wet carpets - worth rejecting? - teabelly
Not impressed with any car that leaks into the passenger cabin. What would happen if you took it through a car wash??? Being waterproof seems to be a very basic requirement for a car to me :-)

There shouldn't be any reason small cars leak more than big ones. Smacks of shoddy build quality or poor design. Neither is acceptable in this day and age.


Wet carpets - worth rejecting? - gordonbennet
Didn't get this leak problem when car roofs had proper gutters....Rover sd1 not included in this generalisation.;)

Aside from which you could move a guttered car with the window open without water pouring into the car and down your right leg.

modern junk
Wet carpets - worth rejecting? - dimdip
Didn't get this leak problem when car roofs had proper gutters....
modern junk


Yes, it's bizarre really. The same thought struck me with the equipment like/dislike thread. Even though the car has been around for over a century, there are still basic design problems with things like keeping the rain out and indicators that won't turn off...
Wet carpets - worth rejecting? - Robert0

My father was bought a 2009 model Aygo from a Toyota main dealer in Woodford, Essex. Awaiting delivery of his order he was loaned a 2009 model Aygo courtesy car. This car leaked leaving puddles in the rear footwells. The dealer was asked (in writing) to guarantee that the actual Aygo purchased did not suffer from the same fault.

A few days after delivery of the new car it rained and you guessed it....the rear footwells became damp. Regretfully the dealer refused to accept the car back and then shamefully denied that there ever was a leak effectively calling my father a liar. The sales manager and the service manager basically said that unless they could claim from Toyota they were not interested in helping even though the car was only a few days old. This is clearly against the sales of goods act, but they seemed unconcerned about our threat of taking this further.

My father (a pensioner) did not want the hassle of legal action and was forced to accept a trade-in allowance for another more expensive model. It is apparent that Toyota are aware of endemic problems but will not make costly design changes to their products unless they get found out with a safety issue (sticky brakes) and adverse publicity. Meanwhile, their franchise dealers are happy to pocket the income from in-guarantee labour claim back schemes.

Conclusion - the Aygo is not fit for purpose and needs a complete re-design as there is no real fix for this water leak issue. Buy another Toyota? I don’t think so!