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Driving Licence expiry - zookeeper
my photo licence apparently runs out in 2011, i didnt get it until 2003...i thought it was supposed to last ten years? help please

Edited by Pugugly on 15/10/2009 at 00:49

Driving Licence expiry - Pugugly
How old are you ?
Driving Licence expiry - zookeeper
49 why?
Driving Licence expiry - Pugugly
In case it was an age related expiry !
Driving Licence expiry - Rattle
When did you get your provisional licence? I got mine in 1999, I passed in 2008 so my licence expired in 2009. If you don't resend the photo when you test it expires from the day the provisional licence was first made.
Driving Licence expiry - Falkirk Bairn
199-2008 - 9 years learning/multiple tests?

or was it 9 years of a licence and little or no driving?
Driving Licence expiry - Altea Ego
dont loose your license.

I just lost mine, paid for a new one and it still only lasts till next year (as the original did) AND it still has my expired points on it.

GRRRRRRRR
Driving Licence expiry - rtj70
Could you have filled in the form to change the photo at the same time I wonder - and then get the extra validity. I suspect not because you need to send the old one back at that time.

My points from 2000 finally came off when I got my new licence (new photo required). Last time I moved they were still valid.
Driving Licence expiry - Muggy
Mine isn't due until May 2013, but an early question - when you renew, do you have to send in both the paper and plastic bits?
Driving Licence expiry - rtj70
Yes you send both bits back to the DVLA when renewing it. And because you renew it before it actually expires you never get the full 10 years. At least if you renew a passport with up to 9 months left on it, the new one gets the extra months added on.
Driving Licence expiry - Pugugly
Just checked mine - it has my Passport picture from 2002 and won't expire until 2018 !
Driving Licence expiry - rtj70
I thought they lasted only 10 years! How does that work then.
Driving Licence expiry - Pugugly
I renewed through the Gateway last year - the system was happy to take my Passport photo from the system and that was it. Just checked my entitlement expiry dates which are 2029 so the sums will get undone eventually.
Driving Licence expiry - Alanovich
What's "the Gateway"? I've got to renew mine and the wife's shortly. Sounds like a shortcut.......
Driving Licence expiry - Pugugly
The Government Gateway scheme - you'll need to sign up to this to get everything done online - see OP's comment.
Driving Licence expiry - Alanovich
Sorry, am I being daft? I don't see anything about a government gateway in the OP's posts.

I'll google it.
Driving Licence expiry - jbif
Sorry, am I being daft? I don't see anything about a government gateway in the OP's .. >>


see recent thread:
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?f=2&t=79...6

The gateway is used for all things official - passports, tax, etc.

cynic mode:
IMO, it is a backdoor to an electronic ID system.
Soon everything about you [sans DNA] will be on the gateway. Your email, phone, NI, car reg, insurance, chassis no, blood type, nhs no., passport, photo, etc. etc.

Edited by jbif on 15/10/2009 at 12:01

Driving Licence expiry - Alanovich
Found it. Looked at it. Got suspicious. Didn't register.
Driving Licence expiry - Altea Ego
IMO it is a backdoor to an electronic ID system.
Soon everything about you [sans DNA] will be on the gateway. Your email phone NI
car reg insurance chassis no blood type nhs no. passport photo etc. etc.


Alas yes that does seem to be the idea. It seems to be the defacto front end to the identity card. Fortunately they dont ask for your DNA double helix or your sperm sample yet.

Also alas I had to register to replace my driving license on line. Mind it came quickly Three days later it dropped through the letter box.
Driving Licence expiry - rtj70
If you lose your licence, you can also call the DVLA and pay the fee over the phone. Unless they have removed this service.
Driving Licence expiry - Pugugly
So a Government agency already has your name address DoB, no doubt not hard to link to vehicle records which will have your reg number through vehicle licensing details in the same agency- they get an e-mail address - I used work's and a work mobile number - oooooooooh big conspiracy !
Driving Licence expiry - jbif
.. oooooooooh big conspiracy ! >>


Government Gateway = Devil in disguise = thin end of the wedge = mission creep.

Have you read today's Telegraph report: "Mr Kitchen, 31, said he was prevented from crossing the border at about 5pm on Tuesday when the coach he was travelling on stopped at the Folkestone terminal of the Channel tunnel."

Wacky Jacqui [*] is no longer Home Sec so we can relax a little, especially if the Tories keep their promise to reverse all the intrusive legislation that NuLab Animal Farm introduced.
In the meantime, using the Gateway means you are entering the "Government" database via a single point and therefore risk the linking up of your passport, birth, NI, NHS, DVLA, DWP, and HMRC records to one central database.

[*] Wacky Jacqui has form for demanding the moon on a stick from technology. She insisted that the ID card system will be impossible to hack because "none of the databases will be online". "Wacky" Jacqui Smith, the Home Secretary, unveiled plans to jail "people in a certain category" who supply police with false email details, or fail to declare new addresses they register. The penalty for registered "people in a certain category" who give dodgy details or lurk on social networking sites will be up to five years' jail time.
Driving Licence expiry - commerdriver
Have you read today's Telegraph report: "Mr Kitchen 31 said he was prevented from crossing
the border at about 5pm on Tuesday when the coach he was travelling on stopped
at the Folkestone terminal of the Channel tunnel."


Can you point the story out online anywhere jbif, bit meaningless otherwise. (probably nothing to do with motoring anyway)

Government Gateway is intended to be a single secure login for access to all online government services where required. Far more sensible than each department or agency providing its own secure access process.
It is structured as a separate application for providing access and does not AFAIK allow or facilitate any data merging between databases any more than could be done anyway.
Driving Licence expiry - jbif
in reply to commerdriver:
Government Gateway is intended ... >>


good intention.
... does not AFAIK allow or facilitate any data merging between databases any more than could be done anyway ... >>


maybe not yet, but just allow mission creep or another Wacky Jacqui to get in to power.
Can you point the story out online anywhere ..nothing to do with motoring anyway >>

Nothing to do with motoring, but an illustration of mission creep, the link you want is:
tinyurl.com/yhmm3lz

And how about this one to do with motoring, where a 2 year old is now on the PNC: tinyurl.com/ylga4rp
"A two-year-old girl accused of hitting a car with a stick was investigated by police on suspicion of vandalism.
The vehicle’s owner called the police claiming the child had deliberately damaged his car.
It has emerged that the toddler’s name and details are being held on file with Wiltshire Constabulary following the incident."


Edited by jbif on 16/10/2009 at 00:45

Driving Licence expiry - commerdriver
Neat little program jbif
still think you could be worrying a bit too much about big brother in general but terrorism does seem to get used as an excuse for a lot of things doesn't it?
Driving Licence expiry - Pugugly
Oh dear - Where does it say that the kid's details are on PNC ? Nowhere ! What a surprise ! Come on for goodness sake.
Driving Licence expiry - zookeeper
When did you get your provisional licence?


in 1977 when i was 17
Driving Licence expiry - jbif
in 1977 when i was 17 >>
photo licence apparently runs out in 2011, i didnt get it until 2003...i thought it was supposed to last ten years? >>


Re your original question, it is possible there is a data input error at DVLA. You had better check it out soon.

Driving Licence expiry - zarqon
I don't have a photo licence, my crumbling document issued in Feb 1999 does not expire until 2026.

Other than the occassional car hire it lives in the filing cabinet so its condition doesn't bother me, but I wonder is there a timetable that states I must eventually replace it with a phtot one?

MPZ
Driving Licence expiry - commerdriver
>>I wonder is there a timetable that states I must eventually
replace it with a phtot one?

yes, when you move house or reach 70 (presumably that is 2026), that must be one of the last paper licences
Driving Licence expiry - GroovyMucker
my crumbling document issued in Feb 1999

that must be one of the last paper licences


I'll see your Feb 1999 pink licence and raise you 11 years: Jan 1988.

Surely mine can't be the oldest.
Driving Licence expiry - mattbod
Sorry don't understand why the expiry is so soon. I passed my test in 1996 and have the old paper licence (which despite HJs dire warnings is still on the computer: Peugeot looked t up when I wanted to test a car at the last Motor Show). I need to get a photo licence I suspect but my old licence is good until 2047. Should I hang on to it.
Driving Licence expiry - JH
"i thought it was supposed to last ten years? ". Or until you move or change your name. It gets expensive.

JH
Driving Licence expiry - mattbod
Another stealth jobbie like passports?