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Wed 30 Sep 2009 13:33
09 2.2 TDCI - Reliability and Durability - Citywhizkid
Hello,

my first post, does any person whave any information on the reliability and durability of the new genration Mondeo TDCI, previous generation was poor. How well do they drive, what sort of mpg can one expect and how far can they go before its life expired...Many thanks for any replies.

{2nd question regarding a VW Transporter now asked as a separate question}

Rgds

Edited by Dynamic Dave on 30/09/2009 at 14:06

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Wed 30 Sep 2009 16:22
09 2.2 TDCI - Reliability and Durability - 659FBE
Time is the only judge of this.

On past performance I have found Ford and GM to be poor on longevity and durability although generally easy to service and fix. Reliability during its "life" is quite reasonable.

Cost is absolute King in the Ford empire and components will not be bought in if they can be made more cheaply in-house. As they lack the expertise of some of the specialist suppliers such as Bosch, there are frequently problems with these sometimes expensive components further down the line.

If only VAG could design a car which was as servicable as a Ford (but keeping the VAG diesel engine) it would be really worth having...

659.
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Wed 30 Sep 2009 16:37
09 2.2 TDCI - Reliability and Durability - cheddar
Having a driven a 2002 Mondeo TDCi 130 from new, now 139k miles and driving as well as ever, I couldn't disagree more.

Re VAG, ostensibly good quality though coil pack issues and now ABS units dent their reputation and it is only recently that they have gone CR (many years later than MB, Ford, Renault, BMW etc) meaning that their diesel engines can compete on refinement.

That being said, with a new car in mind, many of those that appeal currently are VW and Audi alongside the new Mondeo 2.2 and others.

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Fri 2 Oct 2009 00:43
09 2.2 TDCI - Reliability and Durability - R2-CMax
My personal perspective is that a lot depends on bits that have been bought from Tier 1 suppliers that supply a lot of complex assemblies, including entire fuel systems, sensors, steering etc. Ford & GM spun out this activity (Visteon & Delphi). So now, the skill of the OEM is about choosing wisely, and managing the integration at the design level, then assembling it well. And all done quickly and cheaply.

The 2.2 TDCi in the current Mondeo is another unit drawn, AIUI, from the PSA/Ford JV whose products pop up all over the place in Volvo, J-LR, and Mini. Whilst there were some problems with earlier engines from this JV, I don't see much evidenc online that they still have any massive issues. I think a version of this engine goes in the Transit now? In which case it will have to be tough as old boots, surely? :-)
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Fri 2 Oct 2009 19:30
09 2.2 TDCI - Reliability and Durability - TurboD
The biggest problem with Ford s the depreciation. On a Mondeo it is has been severe( as with GM too). So the art is to buy well, well under the list price and keep it . I have found Fords over 20 years to be easy to maintain, functional but prone to rot, but cheap to buy. So you need to make a choice, buy Jap and get reliablity but pay alot for bits if you need them.
All cars are pretty worthless in the end, that also guides me what I buy
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Fri 2 Oct 2009 22:23
09 2.2 TDCI - Reliability and Durability - Peter.N.
All modern common rail diesels seem to be short on reliability and longevity. I have been running Citroen XM diesels for the past 13 years or so, all are capable of exceeding 200k miles without serious problems and many 300k.
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Sat 10 Oct 2009 23:05
09 2.2 TDCI - Reliability and Durability - DP
All modern common rail diesels seem to be short on reliability and longevity.


Disproved by a trip to any auction house where dozens of ex fleet 100-150,000 mile common rails come under the hammer running as sweetly as the day they left the factory. The taxi firms in these parts use Mondeo TDCis and Peugeot HDIs with anything up to 300,000 miles and they're still reliable enough to earn money.

Common rails are technically complex, and can be cripplingly expensive to fix if they break but they are not inherently unreliable.
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Thu 16 Sep 2010 16:34
09 2.2 TDCI - Reliability and Durability - Roly93
All modern common rail diesels seem to be short on reliability and longevity. I have been running Citroen XM diesels for the past 13 years or so, all are capable of exceeding 200k miles without serious problems and many 300k.

I think reliability of most diesels is ruined by lack of hard work frankly. For all of the people that moan about CR problems on their cars ( and probably just potter around town most of the time) there are 10 more that have flogged up and down the motorway for 100K miles with no problems.

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Thu 16 Sep 2010 16:31
09 2.2 TDCI - Reliability and Durability - Roly93

Interesting post, considering I was planning to go from an Audi to a new Mondeo Diesel.

Frankly the price difference between buying a nerly new Mondeo and a nearly new A4 is staring to look like a bridge too far for me. As we have been very happy with the wifes Focus I was considering giving the Mondeo a try as I can get almost the top of the range spec for 1000's less than the Audi.

I do have concerns about the paintwork quality of the Ford compared to the Audi though.

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Fri 17 Sep 2010 09:57
09 2.2 TDCI - Reliability and Durability - craig-pd130

I have a Feb 2008 new Mondeo, and the paint is holding up very well, especially given my usual exterior care regime (i.e. it gets washed by the dealer when it's serviced, and maybe once inbetween services).

Mine's in 'machine silver' and it seems very resistant to stone chips, etc (unlike the windscreen, unfortunately). It came up absolutely gleaming last time I washed it.

My one criticism of the interior is that that some of the plastics are a bit hard and cheap-looking, and it lacks the thoughtful little touches of my previous B5.5 Passat, such as rubber mats in the bottom of the door pockets etc.

However, the bits you sit on and touch feel good, and dynamically (handling, ride, noise suppression, cruising comfort) it's absolutely streets ahead.

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Thu 16 Sep 2010 11:47
09 2.2 TDCI - Reliability and Durability - pdill101

Hi

Owned my 1997 Mk2 Mondeo from new and it's just gone past 340,000 miles - engine never been apart, gearbox never touched, original clutch... Guess latest Mondeos are even better now.

Cheers

Paul

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