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Omega Auto Box - Mark (RLBS)
I cannot believe that I am adding to the plethora of Omega threads......

The Boss has got an Omega Auto. 1999 I think it is.

Anyway, when one first starts an Omega the display panel says something along the lines of "Brakelight Check" which disappears as soon as you press and release the brake pedal.

Also, as normal, the auto selector (gear shift) has a little lever which one has to pull up in order to change from P to D or to R.

When one wishes to take it out of park it is neccessary to put your foot on the footbrake to release the little lift-up lever allowing the selector/gear stick/whatever to move.

Now, here's the issue...

Twice today the car has refused to release the gear lever, and also has not extinguished the "Brakelight Check" message. Clearly the car believes the brakes are not being pressed and so is not performing the brakelight check, nro releasing the gear lever.

Hammering away at the brake pedal for a few moments eventually causes the check light to go out and the gear lever to be released.

Sure as fate it is going to get worse.

I am guessing that there is an electrical switch on the brake pedal which is not reacting to the pedal being pressed. Am I right ?

David W will be grateful if you can solve this for me, because otherwise I am taking a bottle of Chilean wine and driving up to visit him and persuading him to crawl all over the car and fix it while I wind up his daughters and drink the wine with his wife!!!

You'll also save me from a clump around the ear for not getting it fixed sooner.
Omega Auto Box - Mark (RLBS)
She just got back...

Indeed the brakelights don't work, the brakelight check isn't performed and the gearlever isn't released. Banging around with the brake pedal causes and audible click, the brakelights to come on, the braklight check light to go out, the brakelights to come on.

But only about 1 out of thirty times of hitting the brake pedal.
Omega Auto Box - svpworld
I would say almost 99.9999% that the brake light switch on the pedal is at fault. I've got a hayes manual here for an omega, according to this you need to remove the screws from the underside of the facia in the drivers footwell (where the heating ducts are), then you should see the wiring to the brake stop-lamp switch. Check the position of the switch on the pedal bracket and also its connector, guess something is either loose or not correctly adjusted there.

Simon

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Omega Auto Box - Mark (RLBS)
Thanks Simon.

I may go out there with a torch in a minute, or I might save it until early tomorrow morning.

Mark.
Omega Auto Box - Mark (RLBS)
Well, almost broke my back and neck getting in there, and dropped the torch on my own face at one point, but you were right, incuding the instructions on how to get past the panels.

Thank you, if we're ever in the same place I'll buy the beer.

It seems that the people who fitted the car phone kit mounted the little box thing on top of the brakelight wires; it was resting on them and had worked one of them loose.

Gits.
Omega Auto Box - robert
Sounds like the brake light switch to me. Should be cheap enough to fix ..........
Omega Auto Box - Mark (RLBS)
Thanks also, Robert.
Omega Auto Box - Ian (Cape Town)
Under the circumastances, would it be worth investing in a spare switch, which you could keep with the spare fanbelt, bulbs, etc?
Messrs s** and Murphy would explain that NEXT time it happens, it will be at the dead of night, in a carpark miles from anywhere.
Omega Auto Box - Vin {P}
Glad to see an Omega thread is still visible whenever I visit 'Technical Maters'. Well done, Mark.
Omega Auto Box - Dynamic Dave
Under the circumastances, would it be worth investing in a spare
switch, which you could keep with the spare fanbelt, bulbs, etc?
Messrs s** and Murphy would explain that NEXT time it happens,
it will be at the dead of night, in a carpark
miles from anywhere.


If the switch did fail miles from home, all you would have to do to get the gearbox out of Park is prise up the gearstick surround and poke a screwdriver down the hole to release the Park lock. As for not having brake lights, stick your arm out the window and use hand signals.
Omega Auto Box - M.M
Chilean wine would have been nice.

Winding the kids up not! They're just about in a school mood for next week, can't risk upset at this stage of the hols.

As for the car, would have been no problem....sounds just like a typical Citroen problem....both annoying and electrical but simple in the end!

David W
Omega Auto Box - Ian (Cape Town)
Dynamic Dave wrote:...
all you would have to do to get the gearbox out of Park is prise up the gearstick surround and poke a screwdriver down the hole to release the Park lock.


Whilst Mark (RLBS) wrote:
Well, almost broke my back and neck getting in there, and dropped the torch on my own face at one point, but you were right, ...


Talk about the lesser of two evils!
Mark, why do they have this particular feature in the first place - it doesn't appear on my Astra.
And does the same apply when you have to take it out of "D" and into "R".


Omega Auto Box - Dynamic Dave
Mark, why do they have this particular feature in the first
place - it doesn't appear on my Astra.


Ian, I know you asked Mark, but owning an Auto Vectra and also having use of an Auto Astra, I can answer your question.

My Dads Astra (2002) has the same feature as the Omega and Vectra Auto - you have to press the brake pedal to get the box out of P. Presumably it is a safety feature As you are about to select a gear, you are prompted to put your foot on the brake to prevent moving off!
And does the same apply when you have to take it
out of "D" and into "R".


No. Only when taking out of P. To move from D to R, you simply lift the lever just under the gear knob. You can however just pull the stick to go from R to N to D without lifting the lever.

As with all auto gear boxes it is sugested that you first apply the foot brake before selecting D or R from standstill. I rarely bother though.
Omega Auto Box - robert
This was introduced on the Omega from 1997 onwads when it was introduced into the US and sold as the Cadillac Catera. My old Omega was a '96 and that didn't do it. Its a requirement in the US that you can't put the car into drive by accident - thats why ALL the cars in the US do it!
Omega Auto Box - lezebre
The Omega's a Caddy, eh? (Canadian dialect)

Blimy.

Turnpikestormers then.
Omega Auto Box - robert
Well, as its built in Germany and has an English engine I supose that the Caddy is actually an Omega!
Omega Auto Box - Dynamic Dave
Further to my earlier post, you can't remove the ignition key until you have put the gearbox into "P" either.
Except you can on my Vectra because the previous owner forced the locking mechanism in the ignition switch.