Peugeot 307 (2001 - 2007) - 02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working

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Fri 22 Aug 2008 23:02
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Max_307HDi
Got a 307 2002 HDi 110 5 - door,

only prob is the turbo is not working you can hear it when the you rev the engine
and shout the engine off quick can hear it spinning down, there no pressure from the big intercooler pipe from the top as a local guy told me you can feel the intercooler pipe build pressure and mine has none, could this be the wastgate has stuck open? am lost

was told to check the intercooler top pipe
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Edited by Pugugly on 22/08/2008 at 23:29

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Fri 22 Aug 2008 23:33
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Screwloose
Max

If the boost is low; it will set a fault-code, cause limp-home mode, with the light on and/or a dash warning.

Do you have any of those? Are you very sure that you don't have a turbo-pressure leak from a hose or split intercooler? Any odd oil stains appearing?
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Sat 23 Aug 2008 00:04
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Max_307HDi
no oil stains, no error codes on dash, witch hoses should i check as am not sure on these hdi setups as the the 1.9 TD on my old 306 was an open engine bay is there any thing i sould take off to get a better look at the pipes also would the wastgate be stuck open? as the brothers mate was just saying to me tonight there happen to his corsa?
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Sat 23 Aug 2008 00:49
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Screwloose
Max

I can't see any way that there would be a total loss of boost without the engine light on. When and how did this problem appear? What's the engine code?
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Sat 23 Aug 2008 01:15
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Max_307HDi
it happens from start of a drive, how would i find the engine code the car just feels dead
when am past 50mph in 4th and the revs are up abit take the foot of the gas and it feels like you can give the engine more if you know what i mean like the turbo is spining
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Sat 23 Aug 2008 01:23
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Screwloose

The engine code is in the VIN number; RH something?

When did it first start doing this? How long have you had it? Does the engine light come on at key-on and go off when started?
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Sat 23 Aug 2008 01:33
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Max_307HDi
just got the car last week from auction the brother drove it home as i had no insurance,
yes the engine light does come on then off once the car is started
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Sat 23 Aug 2008 01:43
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Screwloose

Ahh; now it starts to make sense. It's been dumped because of a problem; it's likely that the engine light has been "doctored."

You'll have to get it plugged-in somewhere and see if there are any codes. The mass of live-data that these hyper-complex systems generate will show something - possibly even a blocked FAP if it's an RHS engine.
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Sat 23 Aug 2008 01:58
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Max_307HDi
there was 1 owner from new with 98k on the clock am the 2nd owner,

take it this will cost alot to fix also what am i looking at to get it on a computer?
also is there away to check the FAP? and the tank?
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Sat 23 Aug 2008 02:20
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Screwloose

Lets get the engine code first; there are hundreds of possible faults that could cause this - costs are impossible even to guess at this stage.

Getting it read and the live-data checked by a competent Pug specialist will depend on where you are; but around £100 should cover it. Everything needs a top-line scanner to check it on these.

Plenty of cases in the archive; have a search.
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Sat 23 Aug 2008 02:31
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Max_307HDi
i'll check the engine code tomorrow would that be the code from the passenger side window? or would it be on the v5 doc i have only go the new keeper bit as i send it off last week for the name change to mine
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Sat 23 Aug 2008 14:31
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Max_307HDi
Engine code: DYH4012271
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Sat 23 Aug 2008 14:40
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Screwloose

The engine code is in the VIN number; RH - something? What's the next letter?
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Sat 23 Aug 2008 14:50
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Max_307HDi
RHS B
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Sat 23 Aug 2008 15:04
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Screwloose

You have got the complicated emission kit on this one. There's a regenerating soot filter [FAP] in the exhaust - that will need checking on the scanner too.

Find yourself a Pug specialist.
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Sat 23 Aug 2008 15:15
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Max_307HDi
would this stop the turbo working? as it drives dead on just the power is just not there
is there any way of checking the addative tank as the only local specialist is pug workshop

theres no black smoke when your driving just a small bit as normal is the car still ok to drive

Edited by Max_307HDi on 23/08/2008 at 15:16

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Sat 23 Aug 2008 15:57
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Screwloose
Max

You're not grasping the staggering complexity of these cars.

Until it's plugged-in and the mass of data [1800 separate lines] has been thoroughly analysed; then even the general area of the problem is uncertain - everything is interdependent, there are no "silver bullets" and guesswork can cost thousands, usually without effect.

The most remarkable thing about your fault is the lack of warning lights - almost impossible. If something is keeping the system in low-boost limp-home mode; then there should be wall-to-wall warnings.

If something like that dozer valve in the picture had snapped it's linkage, or the FAP was blocked; sensors should have noted it and flagged multiple warnings - where are they?

Aren't there any garages with a good scanner in your area - even just the fault-codes would help.

Edited by Screwloose on 23/08/2008 at 16:01

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Sat 23 Aug 2008 16:05
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Max_307HDi
the only local guy was down the road he is now gone, i'll take it up to pug on monday

many thanks for your help!

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Sat 23 Aug 2008 17:27
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Max_307HDi
Just got the engine light on and UNBLOCK DIESEL FILTER what should i do i have changed the fuel filter on friday afternoon
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Sat 23 Aug 2008 17:58
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Screwloose

Nothing to do with the fuel filter; as previously suggested, that means the FAP in the exhaust is blocked. It may mean that the Eolys additive system isn't functioning. Not good....

Use "Forum search" to look for "Eolys" and "FAP" posts - there's plenty of them...

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Tue 26 Aug 2008 22:09
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Max_307HDi
local guy put the car on the computer today and no errors but did say the DMF is on its way out would this be my prob with the cars power?

thanks
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Tue 26 Aug 2008 22:52
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Screwloose

You've got the engine light on and there are no errors? Did he try a forced regeneration?

If the DMF is blocked by residue; then have it replaced and service the complete additive system at the same time or it will just block again.
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Wed 27 Aug 2008 01:07
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Max_307HDi
the engine light went off that day after i was on the motorway picking up the brother
the DMF is making squeaking noises over the last week or so, also the guy says the turbo wastgate is stuck open can this happen? how would i check the fluid is full or should i buy some and top up?

thanks
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Wed 27 Aug 2008 02:34
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Screwloose

Sorry; I was still thinking of the FAP/DPF - too many acronyms...

If the DMF is squeaking; then that needs doing too; The vanes in the turbo can seize - the turbo can be sent off to be cleaned.

Just how many problems are there on this car? Is it an economic prospect to repair?

Even if the light goes off; the codes will remain - if you have a reader that can access them.

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Wed 27 Aug 2008 03:17
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Max_307HDi
the DMF is getting done this week, i have been told from 1st guy the turbo wastgate is seized and the 2nd guy says the turbo is fine and the engine mount is gone needs a new one, there is no boost in the car old 306 is faster than this 307 and the 2nd guy says HDi's only give out low boosts thats where hes wrong as the 207 1.6 HDi 90 i have
is quick and no remap i have took on bmw 1.8 with the guy dipping the clutch and the bmw owner asking me is that remaped and hes shocked when i say std 90, so i know the HDi's are good some one is telling me porkeys also been told the pipes mite be off at the back i have checked the front ones and they are fine would there by any solenoid
that could do this and any way of checking?

other than that the car is great D-turbo spec just having engine probs at the mo

is there any cheap readers i could buy?

many thanks for your help
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Wed 27 Aug 2008 21:23
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Max_307HDi
for got to ask could the turbo be ok as if the turbo was broke would it be fireing out black smoke?

thanks
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Wed 27 Aug 2008 21:55
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Screwloose

I don't know of any cheap readers for an HDI [unless you consider £4000 cheap...]

Seriously; are you really going to spend at least a couple of grand on this car?

The DMF is getting on for a grand to replace and the FAP system can often be the same, or more, to sort out - and that's even before you start finding out why there is no boost and no codes being stored.

[Unless your bottom intercooler hose has delaminated too...?]
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Wed 27 Aug 2008 22:12
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Max_307HDi
yes going to spend a few grand, the DMF is getting done next week as the guy doing is off,

the FAP system is a pain lol but will be storted
i have checked the bottom intercooler hose and it has no splits when you rev the engine and feel the intercooler pipes they are not getting hard as the local guy showed me on his 307 110 that the pipes go hard and mine are getting very little pressure
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Wed 27 Aug 2008 22:23
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Screwloose

That's the bit that isn't making sense. One drive at 3,000 rpm without boost and there should be, at least, "low manifold pressure" and "low airflow" codes stored - and it would drop into limp-home.

Unless it's been got at and the self-diagnosis crippled? Many "re-maps" do that to stop their silly bodges flagging codes.
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Wed 27 Aug 2008 23:21
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Max_307HDi
the car revs to 3000 rpm no probs don't think its been remapped the only that bugs me is the turbo as if its duffed it should be putting black smoke out, as the mates 406 hdi was pouring black smoke out fixed the turbo and the car is fine now 200k.

would it be worth changing the 3 solenoids in the front one of them run the turbo?

thanks
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Wed 27 Aug 2008 23:40
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Screwloose

Black smoke is usually stuck-open EGR valve. There are so many parts that could conceivably cause your odd fault that you could spend even more thousands and not fix it.

Examining all that live data on a dealer-level scanner is the only way to get a handle on this one.
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Mon 1 Sep 2008 03:10
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Max_307HDi
after the car comes back from getting the DMF done i'll send it to pug.
could you tell me where the FLAP tank is or is it in the tank?
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Mon 1 Sep 2008 13:22
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Screwloose

The additive tank is right next to the fuel tank.
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Wed 17 Sep 2008 00:49
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Max_307HDi
got the DMF wheel done and the guy looked at the turbo and pipes and they are
ok the car feels like the turbo is kicking in when you get up to speed like 40
but is still low boost, now after i got the car back the engine light is on
and just got the anti pollution so would the tank need filled up also would you know
what the eloys is made from as my work gets an additive called air-one that the local buses use just and would like to know if i can use it in the car

thanks
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Wed 17 Sep 2008 02:09
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Screwloose
but is still low boost


See previous comments about EGR valve.

AP warning is not FAP specific - could be any one of 3000 different codes. The only way to know is to get it read.

Bus additive is pig wee. Eolys is made from a cerium-metal based material. Totally different principle.
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Fri 28 Jul 2017 10:13
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - rtenterprises

We have a car with this seemingly exact issue.

Please tell us if/how you resolved this?

Thanks

Rich

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Fri 28 Jul 2017 10:15
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - skidpan

The last post was 9 years ago. i suggest you post on the Peugeot forum.

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Fri 28 Jul 2017 10:32
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - rtenterprises

even though its a 9 year old post, the question is still valid, people still own these old vehicles.

to be honest, i was hoping that the original poster would receive an email notification about my reply, i would rather that than have to go through the whole discussion again.

i could have sent an IM but then nobody else would see the resolve.

thanks for your reply though.

Rich

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Sat 29 Jul 2017 12:22
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - Peter.N.

I take it this is the 8 valve engine, I have been running these in 406's for a few years and they have been absoubtly bombproof - but then they don't have a DPF.

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Sun 30 Jul 2017 10:31
02 2.0 HDi 110 turbo not working - FP

AFAIK, there are no e-mail notifications of additions to a thread or replies to a post on this forum, and no facility for IM or PM.

Old threads here tend to just gather dust; occasionally someone tries to resurrect them for some reason, but in many cases the posters have long ago moved on.

It's better to start a new thread - no-one is suggesting your query is not valid.

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