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Rear drum brakes on 4x4-as good as disks? - Galad
Work colleague is considering buying a new Suzuki Grand Vitara 2.0 petrol but is worried that the back brakes are only drums and not disks. Does seem unusual for a modern 4x4 not to have disks all round. Should he be concerned?
Rear drum brakes on 4x4-as good as disks? - Lud
Why should he be concerned? Is he going to race it? :o}

The handbrake is far less likely to give trouble if there are drums at the rear.
Rear drum brakes on 4x4-as good as disks? - George Porge
70% of the braking effort would be done by the front brakes anyway.

It would'nt put me off, no rear callipers to seize.

;o)

Edited by Dox on 15/06/2008 at 15:53

Rear drum brakes on 4x4-as good as disks? - Number_Cruncher
Given the choice, I would actively seek the model with rear drum brakes.

Rear drum brakes on 4x4-as good as disks? - gordonbennet
Nothing at all wrong with rear drums, if he gets them to fade, he's the Stig.

Lud's right, very little to go wrong, simple mechanicals at the rear for when up to the sills in mud etc.

I've always found the best handbrakes with full size rear drums as well.
Rear drum brakes on 4x4-as good as disks? - oilrag
Agree GB, In fact i would never buy a Motor with rear disks, they are on my 20 point won`t tolerate list for spec.

Rear drum brakes on 4x4-as good as disks? - Marc
I assumed 4x4s had rear drums for the mud issue also. The previous model Freelander has rear drums.
Rear drum brakes on 4x4-as good as disks? - nick
Only very high performance cars need rear discs and only then because they fade less. Nothing wrong with drum brakes at all, rear discs are just fashion item, like alloy wheels IMHO.
Rear drum brakes on 4x4-as good as disks? - none
Not too sure about drum brakes + mud = better.
Back in the 70's I used to work on concrete mixer trucks with drum brakes all round. The rears used to fill with cement and sand dust etc. Every service meant hours of chipping away at concrete trying to get everything working again.
Rear drum brakes on 4x4-as good as disks? - ifithelps
Another advantage of rear drums - next to no brake dust to wash off the equally pointless alloy wheels.
Rear drum brakes on 4x4-as good as disks? - L'escargot
Not too sure about drum brakes + mud = better.
Back in the 70's I used to work on concrete mixer trucks with drum brakes
all round. The rears used to fill with cement and sand dust etc.


Yep. I had trouble with drum brakes one year after driving along a road across which soil dust was being blown (from the adjoining fields) by the wind. The drums had to be removed and the dust cleaned out before the brakes would work properly again.
Rear drum brakes on 4x4-as good as disks? - sumpnut
With this thread there is no right or wrong its horses for courses. If your off road vehicle is up to the axles in water or liquid mud then discs are best as they dry out quickly and you get some stopping power. With mud, it acts as grinding paste and wears lining and drum, and takes forever to dry, a disc is wiped clean in one rotation and all contamination can be easily hosed off.

On the other hand if the car is not exposed to such conditions then drums are perfectly adequate and probably give a better handbrake.

The Freelander no doubt had drums because it was not a serious offroader.
Rear drum brakes on 4x4-as good as disks? - Clanger
Drum brakes? Love 'em to bits! Dealer's nightmare though; when did anyone last get a phone call, "Sorry, sir/madam, your rear drums are worn through to the wheel rims. You'll need new drums and shoes; probably cylinders as well. The car is dangerous to drive so we'll be keeping same until you cough up £ lots".

Doesn't happen, does it?

Front discs; rear drums; LHM powering both; the ultimate combination.
Rear drum brakes on 4x4-as good as disks? - ifithelps
when did anyone last get a phone call "Sorry sir/madam your rear drums are worn through to the wheel rims. >>


Agreed, Hawk, 99 times out of 100, although I once dealt with a car which had warped or ovalled drums.
Our best guess was the owner had somehow managed to overheat the drums which had caused them to distort.