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Road noise / does soundproofing really work ? - mustangman
My car is 2005 Focus 1.6 tdci.

I find that at mway cruising speeds ( about 70 - 75, since I have 9 points! ) engine noise is low due to high overall gearing.

However road noise is far louder than the engine on most surfaces unless you are on very smooth tarmac. Most seems to come from the rear of the car.
I believe that since the tyres are more than half worn, they are most likely contributing a fair bit, but what I'm wondering is; do aftermarket kits of felt stuff and glue really work on this sort of noise ?
Otherwise I would be sticking the felt stuff in all sorts of difficult to get to places to no avail.

Anybody have any experience of this ?
Road noise / does soundproofing really work ? - FotheringtonThomas
>>do aftermarket kits of felt stuff and glue really work on this sort of noise ?

They're supposed to damp vibration in panels to prevent the effect you'd expect from a demented Rolf Harris on speed. The "felt stuff" is supposed to absorb sound. I suspect that even if you could apply it properly, you would not notice much difference. Are you sure that there's no "hole" somewhere that the noise could be coming in? Is the back shutting properly, and the seals functioning properly, for instance? A small gap will allow lots of noise through.
Road noise / does soundproofing really work ? - Saltrampen
Better off improving the thickness and quality of the suspension rubber bushes / mounts etc.
But there is only so much you can do without redesigning the car.
Some tyres generate more noise than others depending on the tread design, but things like suspension subframes and rubber bushes some of the sound can be absorbed before it gets to the car body.
Road noise / does soundproofing really work ? - jbif
I find that a hatchback is always noisier than a saloon version of the same spec/model car.

Road noise / does soundproofing really work ? - Pendlebury
Tyres do make a big difference to road noise as does the soundproofing.
I have just swapped the Dunlops on our Corolla for 4 Michelin Energies and the reduction in road noise is very impressive.
Also the soundproofing you get in cars works well also - personally I would look for some reviews on the aftermarket packs you can get.
But having said that you will be amazed how placing a few bits of foam in the right place will make a huge difference to the noise levels.
Lexus learnt very quickly that a few foam blocks in the right place could completely change the way a door sounds when you close it.
So if you get a good set - then yes I think it will make a difference.

Edited by Pendlebury on 17/04/2008 at 19:17

Road noise / does soundproofing really work ? - oilrag
I soundproofed a dry doored ( sliding windows) 67 Mini and it made an amazing difference. Felt about an inch and a half thick all over. Carpets felt higher afterwards, but i don`t see how you can do inside a modern cars doors? A lot of the sound came through the door skins.

It never occurs to me these days as I don`t mind engine noise. In fact I took the underbonnet soundproofing off the van as it held water and impeded salt washing off in the engine bay.

Regards

Road noise / does soundproofing really work ? - Pat L
I did this on an old VW beetle in about 1980 and it made a noticeable difference (but then the noise from those air-cooled engines was lovely but very intrusive!).

I've thought about doing it with more recent cars but I'm not sure the impact will be that great. And anyway, why don't the manufacturers bung in a bit more felt at the manufacture stage?

If you go ahead let us know how you get on.

Pat
Road noise / does soundproofing really work ? - doctorchris
Are Ford still fitting that weird carpet stuff in the rear wheel arches?
If you don't pressure wash it then it builds up several Kilos of mud. It may be designed to reduce noise and rust but it doesn't work for most drivers.
Road noise / does soundproofing really work ? - Andrew-T

The loudness of road noise depends largely on subframe mounts and other components of the suspension, but a lot depends on the road surface itself, as we all know. Our local MP claimed to have been instrumental in making sure a quieter surface was laid on the M56 near here (he lost his seat at the last election, so it wasn't a vote-winner).

One problem with adding insulation is that it is commonly foam or other cellular construction, which (given the frequency of condensation in a car) may encourage corrosion wherever you try to hide it.

Road noise / does soundproofing really work ? - corax

Mass loaded vinyl is one of the best for stopping low frequency sound (road roar). It is a very heavy and dense material. If you use it, you must overlap any joins otherwise all the effort installing will be wasted with noise coming through the gaps. It works well, but you must add a thin decoupling layer between the surface to be soundproofed and the MLV. Foam sheet is fine.

I have it in the boot and under the rear seats of my Subaru. It stopped enough noise for me to be satisfied, so I didn't go the whole hog and remove the front seats and carpet to cover the entire floorpan.

Tyres make a difference too. My Vredestein Quadracs were terrible for noise when they got older (the more aggressive tread pattern maybe contributing), the Goodyear Efficient Grips that replaced them are superb.

Edited by corax on 07/08/2018 at 14:10

Road noise / does soundproofing really work ? - skidpan

We had a 2005 1.6 TDCi C-Max and whilst it was OK when new the road noise became terrible as the tyres wore out. Once we fitted new ones it was back to as new. Was told at the time that the Focus suspension used quite hard bushes to get the excellent handling and the trade off was the way it transmitted noise into the car. If that is the case I would not expect any amount of sound deadening to work since the noise is passing through the suspension into the body and is not air borne noise.

Road noise / does soundproofing really work ? - gordonbennet

Yes it does work.

If you have a small to medium FWD car the chances are that putting soundproofing over the rear wheelarches and over the boot floor and under the rear seating will reduce road noise considerably.

One you've got rid of the bulk of the noise, you'll hear where the rest of it is coming through and can deal with sections at a time, doors and rear quarter panels let the sound in too.

I've soundproofed several small family hatches now, as Corax notes the main passenger floor rarely needs anything doing, nor the front firewall/bulkead, though often sound can be coming in via the front wheelarches which like the rear ones on mainstream makes may well have no insulation whatsoever between the arches and the thin plastic trim covering them.

Its simplicity itself to trial and costs nothing, gather an armful of duvets and blankets and cover the rear arches, the boot floor and the rear seat area, then go for a drive see what you think, you'll know instantly if it's worth pursuing further.

No need for gluing felt any more, have a look at ebay item 263257476842, this is the type of product i used (but bought elsewhere), remove the trim where necessary, look in disappointment at there being nothing other than painted steel bodyshell, cut to shape stick the stuff and put the trim back, job done.

Edited by gordonbennet on 07/08/2018 at 16:12

Road noise / does soundproofing really work ? - Andrew-T

Its simplicity itself to trial and costs nothing, gather an armful of duvets and blankets and cover the rear arches,

Yes it can cost nothing. The underlay in the boot of my latest 205 had deteriorated over many years by seepage at the rear corners. I visited a local carpet shop, who gave me several m2 of underlay offcuts for nowt. Glad to get rid I think.

Road noise / does soundproofing really work ? - S40 Man

Are your wheel bearings OK. We used to have a focus tdci like this and the v wheel bearings why and made a loud groany/whinny noise. It's a known weak spot on these great cars.

Road noise / does soundproofing really work ? - Bromptonaut

Bit of holy thread ressurection batman stuff here - new post on 07-08-2018 has a product to promote.

Some interesting replies though, particularly that from GB.

Edited by Bromptonaut on 07/08/2018 at 18:29

Road noise / does soundproofing really work ? - Engineer Andy

Really, really not spam.

Road noise / does soundproofing really work ? - sammy1

Yes it does work, and on your Focus start with the larger and simple areas, boot floor and sides, floor pan and bonnet. As you say if tyres are old and hardening this can really add to the noise generated into the cabin

Road noise / does soundproofing really work ? - badbusdriver

and on your Focus

Is this comment aimed at the OP?. If so, seeing as it was Apr 2008, i think that boat has well and truly sailed.

Road noise / does soundproofing really work ? - sammy1

Re bbd yes it was aimed at OP pity the post is ancient only just noticed as I tend to live in the present. Still it might apply to someone with an old car, I did it myself as a project and it worked a treat.