A colleague was crashed into on an approach to a roundabout, by the car behind.
The person driving the car which crashed into my colleague's wrote down her name, address, post-code, and registration number. My colleague photographed the scene.
It has been found that the name, address, and post-code were falseified (no such post code/road).
The number plate was written down wrongly, with characters transposed. The photos., fortunately, recorded the correct number.
So, take care when you take down details if you're crashed into!
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I presume he's reported this to the police.
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Reporting to the police will probably be no use. This happened to me and when I reported it the police had no record of a current keeper. Luckily there was a LOT more damage to their car as they scraped the full length of their passenger side against the rear corner of my bumper....
Unmentionable scrotes.
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reporting to the police may not get directly to the vehicle if there is no registered keeper but it will ( i believe) be put on the "system" as one to look out for may not be much help but may be some.
Edited by commerdriver on 16/01/2008 at 23:19
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Why not just forward the photo to your insurers - they have the authority to trace the owners and can actually start a civil action against the other party for attempted fraud. (Mind you, if you report the same fact to the police, they could take out a similar criminal action)
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If in prime commuting time then chances are said person will drive down that road again at a similar time.
A nice photo with miserable looking colleague and photo of car in the local paper perhaps to shame the errant driver into coming forward/be shopped by someone she knows....
Having a satnav is a useful tool in this case as you could then check the details the other person gave.
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During photo session following an accident, it is possible to [1] ask id of other party [2] take a facial photo of other party ?
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Reminds me of a story I was told, I think it was a ex colleague, they had a note left under their wiper that read something like:
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Sorry, I have just driven into your car, it is a bit of a nasty scrape, I am afraid to say that I am only writing this because there are one or two people watching me who may take my number if they dont see me leave it myself. Little do they know that I am not going to leave my number or any contact details at all though I am sure that when they see me place this note under your wiper they will be on their way.
Once again I am sorry, regards. "
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yep - this does happen - I came back to a dent and a note under my wiper in a Liverpool car park in the '80's. The note read 'sorry about the dent 0123456789' - i've had a soft spot for Scousers ever since, a peat bog on Rannoch moor....
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Local road or trunk road? Was the fake address far away? Perhaps a visit to the police station with the photo and info might jog a memory, or get Plod to look out for the vehicle?
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it's such a shame that people have the front to do this.
I had a similar event,10 yrs ago the driver,wasn't the owner- had taken it for a test drive- false name etc.
God forbid it happens again i think i'd enter address in tomtom to see if it exists- but probably wouldn't have thought about it prior to your experience- most moby's have cameras so its worth recording as much as you can.
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As far as I know, its a RTA offence not to provide your details to a third party when you are involved in a crash. False details is classed (at a minimum) as not providing. Therefore an offence has been comitted.
Toddle down to your local copshop. Report the crime, provide the detail you have (the false details given to you, the photos you have with the correct plate) and request a reference number, or a crime number, or the details of the officer to whom you are detailing the complaint.
Follow up with them on a twice weekly basis, teling them you need the details to lodge a claim.
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>>0123456789
I used to work with the bloke that had 01234 567890, he had it changed because of the kids that rang it.
Guess who we worked for?
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Guess who we worked for?
It's a Bedford number. Not sure beyond that though!
Edited by Marlot on 17/01/2008 at 16:10
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"Bedford 01234 56
The DE block 56 in the Bedford code 01234 has been designated for special use because it contains the significant number combination 01234 567890. Proposals are invited on possible charity or other uses for this number block. Oftel will discuss proposals with the Numbering Advisory Group. "
Ofcom, 1995 - don't know if its now been released
Edited by Marlot on 17/01/2008 at 16:15
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Meanwhile back on topic !!
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Had an incident when a guy knocked me off my motorbike and drove off, the Police were only too willing to find him - the car behind had stopped and luckily for me had a pen and paper, even though the number of the reg I wrote down was slightly wrong (difficult writing with gloves on and a broken thumb!) they got him via the car make/model (useful being a car nut!) and he got 3 points and a £350 fine just before Christmas, and that was before my insurance company and solicitors got hold of him.....
Go and pester your local bobby!
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2] take a facial photo of other party ?
Thats exactly what I was thinking when I read the OP's first post.
Unfortunately there are certain members of the community who are well rehearsed in exactly this kind of criminal activity.
While the so called 'Human Rights' brigade object to this kind of thing I say BRING IT ON!!!
I am not so advanced as to have a camera phone but have always got a digi camera in my car which I would use very thoroughly in such an event.
Good luck, people who do this sort of thing make me sick.
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Thinking further, the sort of person who has the wit, skill and coolness to give false details like this may perhaps already be known to the police (or - perish the thought - be a PC).
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Did you not get their insurance details?
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Is there not a phone number to call where one can instantly verify name and address details? E.g. Police call centre, or insurance company accident hotline, or some such?
"Hello, my name is A. Colleague. I have been crashed into by car reg number TW 0C I am at the scene of the accident and the driver Mr. Scrote has passed me his address details as Catch Me, If U Can, FU2. Please confirm this address exists."
Edited by Billy Whizz on 18/01/2008 at 11:06
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Almost, Billy. Try www.192.com - you can search the electoral roll, but only get to see the full info when you have bought credits. I think there is a call facility as well, but can't see the info at present.
Does depend on the person being on the roll, of course, which they may not be if they are 17, or have recently moved, or not bothered to register (very common amongst the less law-abiding).
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Another one to try is www.b4usearch.com, I was directed to that website by Trading Standards as a good place to search for the address details of the trader who sold me a clocked vehicle a few years back. Last time I went on the website though they were updating the electoral role section.
Edited to add that at the time, it was free search and no need to buy credits etc. May have changed now though.
Edited by hillman1 on 18/01/2008 at 12:30
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There are plenty of us who are law abiding but still opt not to be listed on the public electoral roll.
Councils sell their electoral roll data and it is a common way to obtain names/addresses for junk mail purposes. I know lots of people that dont go on the public list. I only show up if you go to the council office to see the full list.
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