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not much to be said really is there?
wonder if they all live in one of those trailer things and are behind on the mortgage payements?
these are the views of an idiot and are not the views of this site ;-)
Edited by Pugugly {P} on 07/10/2007 at 20:43
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"not much to be said"
Its the world we live in im afraid bellboy
Them that can have kids do and let the council sort them out
Those that could have kids dont because they cant afford it because they have to pay their mortgage!!!!!!!
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>>>>>His parents have been charged with the improper supervision of a minor and allowing an unlicensed minor to drive -
Its a shame they dont do that in this country. Make the parents more accountable for the actions of the kids they have failed to bring up properly and teach right from wrong.
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It's not the world we live in for goodness' sake. It's Louisiana, rednecks, bayous, lynchings until recently, etc, the American Deep South.
I don't suppose this is all that unusual in those parts. Perhaps the 100mph and fleeing from the fuzz, but not the nipper driving unsupervised.
They were jolly lucky he didn't open fire on them with his daddy's pump-action 10-bore (for protecting the still).
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I understand, and agree with, the legal principle that juveniles aren't fully responsible in law and that young children aren't at all responsible - but this surely implies that legal guardians, ie parent(s) must accept the rest of the responsibility.
Round our way parents buy kids mini-moto bikes who then ride around unlicenced, uninsured, terrorising law-abiding people - these same parents deny all responsibility and create a fuss when the bikes get crushed IF the police can catch them.
Edited by Ruperts Trooper on 08/10/2007 at 00:30
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>It's not the world we live in for goodness' sake. It's Louisiana, rednecks, bayous, lynchings
>until recently, etc, the American Deep South.
Actually, the inhabitants of the 'American Deep South' are probably the most polite and law-abiding people you're likely to come across in the US (or the UK for that matter).
>I don't suppose this is all that unusual in those parts. Perhaps the 100mph and fleeing from
>the fuzz, but not the nipper driving unsupervised.
Like some UK council estates on a Fri/Sat night?
>They were jolly lucky he didn't open fire on them with his daddy's pump-action 10-bore (for
>protecting the still).
Yeah, it's like we don't have a juvenile gun problem over here!
Kevin...
Edited by Kevin on 08/10/2007 at 00:54
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Sounds a little bit like Bradford and Leeds any night of the week except here they have no police to catch them.
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When I was 15 (17 years ago) a school chum from a nice, middle class family used to drive his mum's year-old Escort RS Turbo about, without her knowledge of course. Drove sensibly, always wore a shirt and tie, and got away with it for years! Even sat outside the school one day at kicking out time and picked a mate of his up. All the more incredible was that this was the height of the joyriding epidemic, and where we lived was one of the worst cities in the UK for it. Clearly, the police had "other priorities" even back then.
Just recently, I've come to realise that although the world has probably changed in recent years, I've changed a lot more than the world has. With the possible exception of gun possession, today's youth aren't up to anything we weren't up to when we were in our early teens, and I know my dad's generation were up to a lot worse in some instances than we were. For example, I don't ever remember driving to a seaside town en masse and tooled up to beat the carp out of people who dressed differently ;-)
But I digress.
Cheers
DP
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I was at a T juction on an upward slope in Liverpool. The car in front set off, stalled and rolled back into mine; this happened another two times in quick succession. I got out of my car and opened the driver's door of the car in front - the driver couldn't have been more than 12 or 13. Just then my collar was grabbed from behind and 'leave my little brother alone ok?' was growled in my ear. With that 'little brother' managed his hill start and big brother got back into his car and followed him off down the road if I hadn't been there I wouldn't have believed it.
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Farmers' children frequently drive tractors and landrovers underage short distances between fields. A 13 year old friend of my daughter told me recently she still found reversing a trailer difficult in a confined space.
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"The programme
This is a one day Bishop Burton College course for up to six candidates, over the age of 13, who wish to develop their tractor driver skills.
The aim of this course is to ensure that you receive the appropriate basic tractor driving training, in line with, and as recommended by, the Health and Safety Executive."
I think the age for a license is now 16, but used to be less.
Edited by martint123 on 08/10/2007 at 12:20
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I think the age for a license is now 16 but used to be less.
It is 16, but 13 off-road. I was refering to widespread on-road driving at 13 for short distances.
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Its a good idea to allow children to drive under supervision, well away from the highway on private land - it builds up experience and confidence so they are less likely to be involved in any "motoring stupidity" when they are older and have a licence.
My son has been driving our Suzuki SJ410 since he turned 13 (he's now 14), and is incredibly skilfull. He is also just as confident with the tractor, Range Rover (V8, naturally!), Gator, Yaris, and Discovery. I'm so secure in his abilities, that I'm now happy to let him drive on his own (off road, obviously).
He has now started to show an interest in the Highway Code, and often asks questions. By the time he reaches 17 and can take his test, he'll be far more prepared to drive alone than I was when I took my test at 21.
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>>Actually the inhabitants of the 'American Deep South' are probably the most polite and law-abiding people you're likely to come across in the US (or the UK for that matter). Like some UK council estates on a Fri/Sat night?
>>Yeah it's like we don't have a juvenile gun problem over here!
Polite yes, unless they happen to be eating or burning you for some reason. Law abiding, er, not terribly I think. It's part of US national pride to be 'independent of the federal executive' on matters like whisky.
We don't have a 'gun problem'. We have a teenage fashion for cold-blooded murder, and on the rare occasions one of these actually happens we scream the place down and spend the rest of the week tutting. Quite rightly of course.
In America deliberate and accidental shootings by people of all ages are a daily event.
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In many states of the US,underage driving is legal-allowed just to get to & from school.Obviously not in the big cities but mainly in Midwest.
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Yes, I remember reading a magazine article about that several years ago. They interviewed a 12 year old girl who had special permission to drive, and drove her dads V8 Jeep 50 miles to school & back every day !
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