Ford Mondeo III (2000 - 2007) - 52 reg TDCi 130 - Hesitation/Running Problem

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Wed 3 Oct 2007 00:11
52 reg TDCi 130 - Hesitation/Running Problem - Driller52
Hi all.

New to this site but remember Honest John from UCB magazine so glad I found this site.

Can anyone help me?!

My 52 Ford Mondeo TDCI 130 with 118000 miles on it (FSH), has started running badly.

My car keeps 'hestitating'. It usually happens when I'm driving at between 1800-2200 RPM, in 4th or 5th gear and doing about 45-55MPH - I'm not sure of the right word to use, but it feels like it's 'kangarooing'!

It starts of quite gently, but then gets so bad, I have to take my foot off the accelerator, cost for a bit, then gently apply more gas. It sometimes stops for a few minutes, then the jumping returns.

I think I have noticed a loss in power too. I say 'think', as sometimes it feels like there's no power, but other times, it feels just as it should.

Any ideas? Can anyone help me pleeeeeeeeaase!!

Hope to hear from you guys soon.

All the best,
Tony.
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Wed 3 Oct 2007 01:47
52 reg TDCi 130 - Hesitation/Running Problem - rtj70
Do a forum search (still on the rght).

I had this and it was an EGR fault and that is common. Mine is a 53 plate. Hoorah I have it for less than 4 weeks more I think.... actually I quite like it.
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Fri 5 Oct 2007 12:43
52 reg TDCi 130 - Hesitation/Running Problem - Driller52
Hello there!

Thanks so much for the heads up.

In the end, I had to take my car to a trusted mechanic & we went for a test drive. He disconnected the Air Flow Meter and ther problem seemed to have stopped. He ordered a new one (£120 incl. parts & labour), I drove away & the problem is still there!

I will mention this EGR fault to him - is this the same thing as the ECU/'brain' of the car?

Does this mean my car will need to be put on a diagnostic machine?

May I ask you how much it cost to sort yours out?

Sorry for all the questions, but hope you can help!

All the best,
Tony.

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Fri 5 Oct 2007 13:03
52 reg TDCi 130 - Hesitation/Running Problem - Screwloose
Tony

Anyone who just swaps parts without doing the proper checks, or even reading the live-data, isn't much of a mechanic.

Take it to a diesel specialist for a proper diagnosis.
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Fri 5 Oct 2007 14:35
52 reg TDCi 130 - Hesitation/Running Problem - rtj70
If it's the EGR valve there will be error codes. You'll need to take it to someone who can read the error codes.

No idea how much if it is EGR because mine is a company vehicle.
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Mon 8 Oct 2007 18:28
52 reg TDCi 130 - Hesitation/Running Problem - paulb {P}
If it's the EGR valve there will be error codes. You'll need to take it
to someone who can read the error codes.


I had a similar problem, but this wasn't producing any error codes - apparently there was a dodgy connection to the camshaft position sensor which was causing a number of problems including this. Now this has been seen to (under warranty, as mine is a 55 reg) the car drives appreciably better. Might be something for the OP to ask about.
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Mon 8 Oct 2007 23:58
52 reg TDCi 130 - Hesitation/Running Problem - kurnal
You almost certainly have an Exhaust Gas Recirculating Valve (EGR) valve that is stuck slightly open and should be replaced . IIR they are about £45- but may be a little more now- my last was fitted 2 years ago. . The valve sits at the front offside of the engine bay. It feeds in a little exhaust gas under light throttle conditions to improve and cool the combustion. If it sticks open a little it causes the problems you describe but will not generate any fault codes. Your gentle throttle increase feeds in more fuel but there is not enough oxygen to burn it cleanly as there is still some exhaust gas where there should be fresh air- hence the misfire. Eventually it will stick fully open then you will get clouds of black smoke and poor performance and then you will see the fault codes. With 112k on the clock I'm on my third valve, though this one has been good for 40k- never missed a beat.
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Tue 9 Oct 2007 00:03
52 reg TDCi 130 - Hesitation/Running Problem - kurnal
Just another thought- if performance is always down rahter than occasionally, another fault could be a split air hose between the intercooler and the EGR valve - the 2.5 inch hose always splits on the inside of the bend just beneath the EGR valve- if this is the problem you will hear a loud hiss on acceleration as the turbo feeds in, lots of black smoke and poor performance generally. EGR valve still first suspect though.
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Mon 1 Feb 2010 09:04
52 reg TDCi 130 - Hesitation/Running Problem - Thefletch
hiya mate
I came across your forum post although I realise it was a few years ago now! I have the exact same problem with the hesittaing in those revs, unplugged the air flow meter, fault gone, purchased a new one from Ford at £135, plugged it in and fault still there. No faults codes logged so now at a complete loss, car is in the garage at the moment.

Can I ask what eventually was the problem with yours and what was the fix?

many thanks in advance

Huw

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Edited by Dynamic Dave on 01/02/2010 at 10:01

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