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Tax Break For Biodiesel - teabelly
So does this announcement mean it is now legal to run a diesel car on undeclared veg oil from any source? eg waste and filtered oil or normal veg oil from tesco?
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Tax Break For Biodiesel - Brian Tryzers
Not clear, Teabelly, but I suspect not. The Blooming Futures text (and its website) seem to suggest a technical distinction between PPO and biodiesel, but it's not clear what that is. In practice, unless there's a standard for PPO as fuel, to which suppliers can prove their adherence and HMRC people can enforce through roadside checks, it'll be hard to prove whether a vehicle is running legally on duty-exempt PPO, or illegally on something else.

It's an intriguing development, but I'll want to know a bit more about it before I start pouring the stuff into my tank. For one thing, once a vehicle is converted (with a heater in the fuel line) to run on PPO, is ordinary fossil diesel no longer suitable? And how will PPO interact with the common rail fuel systems we all love to worry about here?

In any case, regardless of the tax and technical considerations, this can only ever be a small-scale solution. There simply isn't enough land in Western Europe to grow the oil crops that would be required to fuel all the vehicles. The crops are notoriously water-hungry too - that may raise a hollow laugh this summer but sunflower cultivation in southern France is causing serious water stress to wetland environments.

Bottom line is that, much as the motor and oil industries would love biofuels to be the solution, the sums don't add up. We'll still need a long-term replacement for internal combustion, and we'll have to consume less all round.
Tax Break For Biodiesel - Saltrampen
Good news for Farmers and Biofuel users, but I understood that if every acre of UK arable land was used for Fuel production, then it would only meet 10% of demand (is this right?).
But it all helps to reduce non biomass CO2 emissions.
Last time I heard there was still no excemption from congestion charging for biofuel users, hopefully now some sort of scheme will implemented soon where Biofuel users can prove they are using biofuel and therefore gain excemption.
Tax Break For Biodiesel - Brian Tryzers
Why? A vehicle is a vehicle, and causes the same amount of congestion regardless of what's fuelling it.
Tax Break For Biodiesel - Cliff Pope
Why? A vehicle is a vehicle and causes the same amount of congestion regardless of
what's fuelling it.


You have fallen into the carefully concealed trap, and been misled into thinking that the word "congestion" has anything whatever to do with crowding on the roads.
Correct synonyms would include "political expediency", "easy target" "class prejudice" "income generation", etc. Something very similar in fact to the expression"speed camera".
Tax Break For Biodiesel - mike hannon
Absolutely. Just shows how politics has eventually showed itself in spite of all the fine words. Hizonner and the rest call it the 'congestion charge', NOT the 'pollution charge'.
Tax Break For Biodiesel - FotheringtonThomas
Wow! At first sight, I'm really impressed!
Tax Break For Biodiesel - moonshine

Found the link to the official HMRC release. It seems it's not as simple as just anyone being able ot go out and bung oil into their tank. I've only had a quick scan of the release but it seems you still need to inform HMRC and you need to keep production records for 6 years.

www.hmrc.gov.uk/briefs/excise-duty/brief4307.htm

Tax Break For Biodiesel - Lud
Sounds good. I know a couple of fields that may now fill up with rape. Trouble is it looks and smells a bit garish, and isn't really British. But you get five times as much oil per hectare as you do with the much prettier and generally nicer linseed, quite a lot indeed.
Tax Break For Biodiesel - Manatee
Some info here, and kits for sale - they suggest you can even convert CR diesels using a twin tank set up. I don't think I'll be trying it.

www.biotuning.co.uk/Home.htm
Tax Break For Biodiesel - oilrag

Its going to be a really good test, of what unmodified common rail systems specifying only EN590 can take. :)