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whats the worst tyres youve ever fitted to your car?, i put a pair of cheap chinese budget tyres on my motor and i couldnt hear the radio above 30, i had them balanced but the car still juddered and hopped ,in the end i put my old ones back on (very worn bridgestones) so i need to replace them soon any one know of a good cheap tyre pref not part worn?
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www.mytyres.net , get a set of either eagle F1's or toyo proxes.
example I use toyo 195/50/15, £30.90 each delivered to your door then local tyre bay charges £7.50 for fitting and balance with new valves etc. Local tyre places cant supply cheapo budget remoulds for that price and toyos are fantastic tyres.
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Worse tyres ive ever fitted Pirelli P6000, all 4 lasted all of 6K miles till they where worn out.
The Goodyear GT2's the 206 left the factory with are pretty rubbish as well but not as bad as the P6000's
Best tyres Michelin Pilot Primacy or the Pilot Exalto PE'2s ive just had put on my 206.
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Lee,
What on earth were you doing to use up the P6000's like that...........i've got 4 on mine and they've been on there for over 2 years.........and still got 3.5 mm on them
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What have they been fitted to, Track - that's the size needed for Mrs V's Mx5 Montana, verrrrry soon? Been looking at Toyo & the Michelin, but conflicting reports on both!! So Lee might comment to!
As for original Q - had the awful TD Dunlops on our XJ, years back, changed the wheels n tyres for Uniroyals, VR rated, then these were changed for Z rated after another 30k & were super silent & excellent grip.
& worse for wear, on the vans we sold, always seemed to be Continentals & Pirelli. Those were OE on British Gas Combos & Maestrs. very uneven wear characteristics, even if you blame drivers for overloading, or not checking pressures - no contest with Michelin, here.
VB
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They where 195 55 15 V P6000 fitted to a Pug 405, wheel alignment checked at the same time & was fine.
Only managed to get 6K miles out of a set of 4, wasn't very happy.
Fitted Michelin Pilot Primacy to replace them, wheel alignment checked again & was still fine, 24K miles out the back pair & 12K mile out the fronts so carried on with the Michelin's
Seeing as it was a 405 I did take advantage of the brilliant handling of the chassis.
Gone for the newer Pilot Exalto PE2's on the 206 as the Primacy HP isnt made in a 15" size.
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Only managed to get 6K miles out of a set of 4, wasn't very happy. Fitted Michelin Pilot Primacy to replace them, wheel alignment checked again & was still fine, 24K miles out the back pair & 12K mile out the fronts so carried on with the Michelin's Seeing as it was a 405 I did take advantage of the brilliant handling of the chassis.
Wow, I've never got such poor mileage out of tyres! :)
Front Michelin Pilots on my old Mondeo managed 30k. 10k miles on Bridgestone Turenza (??) on my Avensis, 'down' to 6mm according to the service paperwork. The latter is mainly motorway miles, but the Mondeo was mainly urban.
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Will only ever fit Michelin now, well worth the extra money.
Tried Goodyear, Pirelli, Bridgestone, Firestone, Dunlop & none of them can last as long or grip as well as a Michelin.
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Jist been cleaning Sister's Puma all day (quite pleasurable) this has Pirelli 6000s all round, took it out for a blast.......they don't half grip, wear rates aren't bad it's on its second set of tyres with 50k on the clock, these are barely worn.
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Yep, I agree, I really do not like P6000's. Have had them on a couple of cars, wear rates are high and I don't think the grip is all that good. I have started using Firestone TZ200's and am happy so far with them for grip and noise - dont do enough mileage now to notice wear rates too much.
On a truck I have found Dunlops to be very dangerous, great gaffers tyres as they last forever but it is like driving on steel rims, no grip at all, and even less in the wet!!!!
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Do you boys go drag racing on your P6000s? SWMBO's Focus did 31,000 miles on its original fronts and still has its original rears at 46,000 - with a few more '000s to go.
OK, the P6000s are noisy - but I suspect that this is as much the fault of the car's design.
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"Pirelli P6000, all 4 lasted all of 6K miles "
Eh? I got 35,000 or so out of the ones I had on my Omega. What on earth were you doing?
Worst I ever had was some cheap remoulds on my Mini 850 - big chunks of tread were missing after a few months.
I now no longer go for cheap tyres - I like to feel that my point of contact with the road is now more important than that. I do suspect, however, that tyres are like so many other things these days, where the quality of the worst is catching up with the best and is fast becoming at least adequate.
V
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I have to agree with track about the Toyo Proxy TIR. The provide phenominal levels of grip.The down side of course is they do not last as long as less grippy tyres but they are a lot cheaper to buy.I have done about 8k miles on my last set,and the fronts are about half worn.This quie good for a car that`s heavy on front tyres. I would recommend them to anyone who likes enthusiastic cornering.
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Best place for cheap tyres is the local scrapyard, you can't beat it, cheap tyres for bangers, don't worry whether they have been in a crash, they will be just right for you.
I have seen Michelins only lasting 200 miles, this year Bridgestones are only lasting 200 miles. These posh tyres are rubbish, get some cheap ones, you know it makes sense.
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Tee hee qm, very amusing and perfectly sensible...
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P6000'S Standard on a 1.2 Corsa and the Pug 306 GTI - Probably good tyres on the Corsa but not good enough for the 306.
Personally I had some Yoko substitutes apparently made by sister company - Ok in the dry but in the wet was scary.
Now I prefer to stick to Goodyear F1's or Toyo's although both seem to wear v quickly.
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Worst ever ----- my Fraud Zodiac Mk2 - in about 67 I put set of Swedish Gislaved? tyres on lasted years and years the compound was so hard - don't even think of going round an island -- wheels turned car went straight on -- worst modern tyre F1's 6k miles - best for grip in wet Uniroyal Rally 380's on SWMBO Mazda 323 pop up headlight job - Best now Toyo
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Dunlop SP Sport 200's. Had a pair fitted to the front of my 306 (company owned) and was shocked to find they had considerably less wet weather grip than the near-bald Goodyear Venturas that had come off the car.
These were awul tyres. They turned the 306 from a sharp, entertaining drivers tool into an understeering, comedy-wheelspinning bag of nails. What's more, on trying to wreck them to get them changed early, I discovered they were completely indestructible. Even laying 30ft lines off the lights at every opportunity, I still got 15,000 miles out of the swines.
I've never experienced tyres this bad, even when running £20 remoulds in my early motoring days. I haven't let a Dunlop product near another car (or motorcycle) I've owned since.
Cheers
DP
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Yes, I agree with the negative remarks about the P6000, high wear rate, noisy when worn, and poor grip. Their P7s are pretty much the opposite.
The worst tyres I had were some sort of Yokohama, the man in the shop made out they were 'the latest Japanese technology' and 'it rains a lot in Japan so they are good in the wet'.
Well, I got a set of four for a BMW 5252i I had, and they were terrible at everything, thankfully they wore out quickly. Worst of all, one dveloped a bulge, and was sent to Yokohama, who stabbed it and sent it back as damaged in use!
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Odd that - I had a set of Yokohama A520s on my 8V Cavalier SRi and they were superb, particularly in the wet. Having said that, they're not a patch on the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 which I have at the moment. The Bridgestone RE720s I had on my last car were prettty good too. One thing though - I'll stick to directional tyres.
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Anyone here noticing the same pattern as me? i.e. That there's practically no such thing as a good or a bad tyre, just (possibly) good or bad combinations with certain vehicles and an awful lot of personal taste.
I've had the reviled P6000s as OE on my last three cars. Each time, the front pair has lasted about 18,000 miles and then been replaced by the rear pair, which in turn has given way to Michelins - Primacy on the last two. (Fleet operators seem to get much better prices on Michelin than Pirelli.) Each time, I've noticed marginal differences in the way the car behaves, but nothing I didn't get used to wihin a week and nothing I could call 'better' or 'worse'.
To complete the story, my present car is no longer a fleet car and is now back on four P6000s (private buyers seem to get much better prices on Pirelli than Michelin!) which are absolutely fine.
Consider this: if P6000s were as bad as some here like to say, how cheap would makers have to get them to risk potential sales by fitting tyres that make their cars seem worse than they really are?
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Toyos on the Merc haven't worked out well. I'm sure the grip is great, but there's various computers to worry about that. My major concern is that after about 6 months & 7000 ish miles the rears have had it and the fronts are about half way - at £150 a corner !
Something a little harder wearing this time, I feel.
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I'm sure the grip is great, but there's various computers to worry about that. My major concern is that after about 6 months & 7000 ish miles the rears have had it and the fronts are about half way - at £150 a corner !Something a little harder wearing this time, I feel.
don't forget that despite the computer etc, your tyres are the only thing between staying on the road and cheerio in some circumstances........and the computer can leave us complacent
took mine for a service at a local specialist and they lent me an older XJ6..........the first wet roundabout was 'interesting' and i promise i didn't do it on purpose........i'd got so used to all the gadgets controlling things, plus more than reasonable tyres, that a car without both damned near caught me out.
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Fair point, but there must be a better compromise than what I have now.
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