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Anyone know just when Ford started using the oval-with-handwritten-script logo? I mean when they started using it on badges, steering wheel centres and hubcaps on their UK models. I'm sure my dad's Consul back in the fifties had some sort of logo with five-pointed stars on it and I don't recall his Corsair in the late sixties as having any blue ovals, but my memory might be playing tricks.
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My old mans 1956 Ford Consul Mk2 had one somewhere but i cant remember where it was
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they were still using the "five stars" ie: ford of 5 continents , thu the anglia / mk1/mk2 cortina stage , i think it apeared first on the fiesta /mk 2 escort
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Nah it was on the boot lid of the escort Mk1
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Nah it was on the boot lid of the escort Mk1------------------------------ TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
I think you are right in that it must be somewhere around the end of the sixties. But was the Escort the first Ford of Britain model to use it?>>
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no , on the boot of a mk 1 escort were two badges one saying ford , cannot remember if this was a single badge or acreoss the boot , the other one was oblong and stated the model ie: escort 1.3l etc , the oval came out later , i am sure it was on the ft grille of the mk 2s , because at that time ford UK were no longer designing cars inhouse , ie: the escort mk 2 was for europe ,
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Oval 1912, blue oval 1928 according to FMC brisk google...
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as per american cars , the change was made when ford , changed to ford of europe , ie: mk 2 escorts , cortina/tounus and the granada , none were designed in the uk , the were a ford europe platform , so the badging changed to reflect this
although this badge was used www.fivestarclassics.com/phdi/p1.nsf/imgpages/five...g 1159 - 1964 , at the bottom of the ft wings
look at www.fivestarclassics.com/phdi/p1.nsf/imgpages/five...g to see more badges
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See tinyurl.com/2g5r8m
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It was early sixties-before the setting up of Ford of Europe.The UK company was a seperate entity till the US bought all it's shares.
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as per american cars , the change was made when ford....
Thanks freddy1 - sounds right to me.
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The decals you show are all MkII Cortina which did not come out till late 66 and the 1600E till much later.
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we have managed to come around full circle , with the correct answer being 1976 , however i pointed out earlier , that they were not used an mk 1 escorts , but were on mk 2 , s
this seems to be now shown as correct
during this era i worked for a ford franscise , and was rallying the mk 1 version of the escort
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My mk1 escort had a blue oval badge and from this list you can see they were in use in 1959.
www.fivestarclassics.com/phdi/p1.nsf/supppages/fiv...2
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Bit more info.
The Ford oval trademark was first introduced in 1907. The 1928 Model A was the first vehicle to sport an early version of the Ford script in the oval badge. The dark blue background of the oval is known to designers as Pantone 294C, the same color used in Finland's flag. The Ford script is credited to Childe Harold Wills, Ford's first chief engineer and designer. He created a script in 1903 based on the one he used for his business cards. Today, the oval has evolved into a perfect oval with a width-to-height ratio of 8:3. The current Centennial Oval was introduced on June 17, 2003 as part of the 100th anniversary of Ford Motor Company.[5]
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Both the "Y" model(1932 on) and the "C" model had a Blue Oval as a radiator badge and a look thro' some old photos show both Mk III Zephyr/Zodiacs and Corsairs with a blue oval on the bottom of the front wing.
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My 1973 Mk1 escort had the FORD letters across the boot and Escort and Automatic in script badges below the boot. Wheel hub caps had a five pointed star emblem. Across the bonnet was FORD in small letters.
But in the door sill (so hidden when door closed) there was an aluminium cover strip with a small (25-30mm long) blue oval self adhesive badge centred in the sill. (two door model) These were the only blue ovals on the car.
Under the bonnet there were various castings with the FORD scropt and FoMoCo on pipes and bottles etc.
StarGazer
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I think Freddy's right. The Cortinas and Escorts (even early Mk IIs) I remember from my primary school days had FORD in chrome on the grille, although I think the oval badge appeared elsewhere in the Ford world - showroom signs and so on. I first noticed the oval on the Mk IV Cortina in 1976, after which it spread rapidly to all the other models.
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A bit more info-tho' not directly to do with the subject-Ford UK(remember ENFO trademarks) ceased business in 1961-all Ford UK shares were purchased by Ford US between November 1960 and May 1961.Ford of Europe was set up in 1967 and the first "European" model was the Mk. I Escort in 1968.
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Didn't Ford of Europe have a factory in France set up after the second world war and manufactured such cars as the Ford Vedette before they gave it away to Simca.
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Ford and Mathis set up a joint plant in 1934 to assemble American V8's.The Matford lasted till 1939.After the war,Simca built V8's and then developed their own ranges(Vedette& Aronde) till the controlling interest was sold to Chrysler.
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I should have said the controlling interest was owned by Ford.
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I might have missed it but I didn't see reference that many Ford parts and even the 'small print' on some car badges used to say 'FoMoCo' on them. The badge on my grandfather's 1958 prefect had FoMoCo badges on the sides.
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SORRY!!!!! SORRY!!!!!
I see someone HAD already mentioned FoMoCO only a few posts above. I'll just go go and bathe my feet in boiling oil!!!
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we have managed to come around full circle , with the correct answer being 1976 , however i pointed out earlier , that they were not used an mk 1 escorts , but were on mk 2 , s this seems to be now shown as correct
>>I have several photos in my copy of "Ford Cortina 1600E" that very clearly show the Ford oval on the rear of the front wing just above cill level.
So certainly in 1967 the oval was in use in the UK.
It seems to be on the earlier models with full chrome Rostyle wheels but not on the revised version ( like I had)
It was also on the earlier Lotus-Cortina.
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