Hi All,
I would like to praise the peug 106. I bought a 95 model (1.1 petrol) in 2002 at 40000 and sold yesterday at 120000 and i found the car very comfortable ( i would ofter drive 4-5 hours a day) and i am 6ft 2, economical (48-50 mpg), and reliable only one non start in five years due to a flat battery.
In the time i owned the vehicle other than brakes, tyres( the rears did 80000 miles and still had 3/4 mm tread left) exhaust service items and battery the only things i had to do to the car were as follows
55k head gasket and radiator,
66k wishbones replaced due to worn bushes and ball joints
80k new gearbox / driveshaft seal
9 years old new stereo
96k front offside wheel bearing & drive shaft gaters
112 k offside wishbone due to worn bushes ( only 46k and 3years since done last)
i know peug's not everyone cup of tea - perhaps i was lucky- but i thought this was a very good car.
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Shame cant be said about the 306, right pile of poo. Having said that I think I picked a lemon. Back to german cars now, had 3 audis and a VeeDub before Pug.
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Shame cant be said about the 306, right pile of poo. Having said that I think I picked a lemon.
My 1994 306TD is somewhere in between poo and lemon I'd say. Bought at 9 years old and with 120k on the clock and has fallen victim to the following:-
New radiator at 125k
Replacement engine at 153k due to blown head gasket and failing turbo oil seals
Replacement power steering rack and clutch at 172k
Rest is general servicing items (oil, filters etc) and tyres, brake cylinders and suspension bushes.
All within 65k miles and nearly 4 years driving. Car is roughly costing me 10p per mile to run, averaging 42-45mpg and doing my own oil and filter changes. Replacement parts are generally bought at a knock down price from a breakers as there's still loads of old 306s around, so parts are readily available.
Car is now on 186k and still drives like a dream- pulls like a train, sharp brakes and precise steering- handling that isn't matched by the newer 307.
Still thinking of a 306HDi as a replacement.
Martin
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i had to do to the car were as follows 55k head gasket and radiator, 66k wishbones replaced due to worn bushes and ball joints 80k new gearbox / driveshaft seal 9 years old new stereo 96k front offside wheel bearing & drive shaft gaters 112 k offside wishbone due to worn bushes ( only 46k and 3years since done last)
So quite a lot then? :)
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sounds like that record where he built his car one bit at a time courtesy of his snap box :-(
JOHNNY CASH - One Piece At A Time............. ;-)
Glad you were happy with all the bits as i wouldnt have been:-o
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I don't think that record is bad necessarily, but neither is it outstandingly good. My 106 (94 XSi) was a great little car, but I only had it for just over a year, so couldn't comment on reliability. It didn't let me down in that time though.
306's seem to be a mixed bag. I had a 1998 1.8 16v petrol as a company car which was a complete dog. In 60,000 motorway miles it suffered head gasket failure, instrument panel failure, airbag wiring problems, idle control valve gunked up (twice), tappet rattle, baulky gearbox, a problem with the headlamp wiring, clutch failure and an alternator failure. By the same token, a colleague had a 1996 "Phase 1" XSi 8 valve which did 170k and needed only an alternator, an exhaust and a set of suspension bushes outside of routine servicing. It even had the original clutch in it. Used a fiver's worth of oil a week by the end, mind. :-)
Cheers
DP
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Yep i think the list isn't that bad - execpt the low millage head gasket failure- especially considering peug's reputation for electrical problems. Apat from the head gasket the rest of things on the list werent too expensive to fix or cause non start or breakdown
I should point out that the 80k entry should read a new seal ( it was some seal between the gearbox and drive shaft) just in case anyone interprited that as new gearbox required.
With My previous car - an mrk11 astra had to call the breakdown services 8 or 9 times in 6 -7 years now that really was a pain.......
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so no gearbox,............good :-)
so its just serviceable consumables then,
i agree with you now then Edinburgh andy,
the h/g probably went because the previous owner didnt keep to the antifreeze recomendations i reckon
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Yes i can see how the list wouldnt have looked too impressive i f a new gearbox was required i should have made that clear.
I believe the 106 can be heavy on bushes and ball joints but considering the very good fuel economy, the bodywork was in in excellent condition - the words of my mot man not mine-, it was a small price to pay for what i regarded as a very good car.
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Before the 306 I had a 1991 309 1.9D. Bought as my first car in 2000 when I was 19, had 123k on the clock when I got it and when I got rid in 2003 it had just turned 150k. In that time, all it needed above regular oil, filters and a cambelt change was a tyre, driveshaft gaiter, a battery and an exhaust rear box. Hence much more reliable than my 306 but not quite as nice due to it's lack of toys and dull looks. Would have kept it for longer if I hadn't crashed it- cheap to run, averaged high 40s mpg, spacious, comfortable and not too slow despite no turbo.
As DP says, the list of problems with my 306 isn't really bad considering age and mileage. Mine hasn't suffered electrical problems though (touch wood)- electric windows, central locking and alarm are all still functioning at nearly 13 years old and 186k. I think it's a case of running it into the ground at this stage as it's worth so little. As soon as something major goes wrong again or if it needs MOT work in excess of £300 then it's time to get rid of the old beast.
Martin
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