I am about to replace the 2 x front tyres on my S60.
The Pirelli P6000's have been OK but I wonder if it is worth trying something different if people can recommend a quiet, safe alternative. Size is 205/55 R16 W rated.
Grip takes precedence over life as I would prefer to stay on the road better rather than replace the tyres at a later interval.
Any ideas?
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Pirellis are already soft and grippy compared to other brands. However, you could opt for Yokohamas or Toyos if you want even softer.
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Goodyear F1 GSD3's seem to get pretty good comments on the Merc forums I frequent, including from one owner who also has them on an S80.
I currently have Bridgestone ER30's. The treadwear rating of 140 is the lowest I've ever had on a car and I can almost watch them wearing out. They really need replacing now, after 17000 almost exclusively motorway miles. Some people apparently wear them out in 6000 miles. I guess this means they're pretty soft, although they're noted for having stiff sidewalls, so they 'steer' well and the ride is fairly hard.
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Nother endorsement for Goodyear Eagle F1's.
I fitted a set to my Impreza Turbo last summer and have been delighted with them. Wet grip is outstanding and they give exellent steering 'feel'.
Wear rate seems ok so far - after 8000 (mostly motorway) miles i am nowhere near 50% worn on the fronts, and the rears look almost new. I can't really comment on the noise - Scoobys are so noisy anyway that a bit of tyre roar isn't noticeable.
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The Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3 tyres are great. I switched from Conti Sport Contact II's to them and they are just as grippy in the wet, slightly quieter, last longer and cheaper.
The Continentals are okay tyres but are quite expensive and don't last that long.
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the goodyears have a good name - but I have seen several reports of goodyears splitting - have a search on the volvo owners club site. Several T5 owners have had problems, perhaps they didnt have the right load rating ?
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Try Vredestein I bought them after they won the Auto Express tyre test. I wanted a tyre that was a very safe all-rounder and they have not dissapointed.
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Different car, I know, but I went from Dunlops to Pirellis on a Rover 75, and couldn't live with the thing after, due to a remarkable increase in tyre noise.
I guess that the message is: Dunlop quiet, Pirelli noisy: Although you will find other posters who say the exact opposite!
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Wasn't there a thread last year about the best rain tyre? Not sure how to check.....
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I had Dunlop SP Sport 9000's on the Mondeo, replaced them with Eagle F1 GS-D3. The Eagle F1's offer better grip wet and dry, and less road noise.
But I've eaten the front tyres in 10k miles..
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Another very happy Eagle F1 GSD3 customer.
Here's what I had to say before, which as it happens also relates to replacing P6000s on a Volvo, albeit a V70;
See the last paragraph at www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?v=e&t=33...2
To this I add that they are the quietest low profile tyre I've ever come across. Even in the quiet and well isolated cabin of a V70 or S60 of which I have driven many, the GSD3 is the best of the best.
Despite my tuning to 262bhp/410NM as shown on the last dyno run, they are also wearing very well.
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Thanks SjB. I am persuaded. Have found them on www.etyres.co.uk at £80.90 inclusive and they will fit them at my work address.
Sounds good to me!
I will report back as to how I find them.
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Meticulously check the condition of your alloy wheels before and after the mobile fitter calls.
My partner had two front tyres changed by one of these supposedly reputable mobile outfits and the fitter damaged both alloy wheels in the process. We didn't notice until the car was washed and the creamy gunk from the fitting was washed off.
Before anyone says, yes I know this can also happen at any tyre fitting depot....!
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Thanks Peter,
I will take a digital pic before and wipe the rims with a damp cloth before he goes.
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If you want very good in the wet and reasonably quiet then go for uniroyal rainsports. If you want pretty darn good in the wet, fantastic in the dry and reasonably quiet then get toyo proxies. If you go for the R designation then they have the reinforced side walls. They also have the v shaped centre section to blast out water.
I usually find each mm of tread lasts 5000 miles. I don't think the proxies would last that long as they encourage enthusiastic driving....
teabelly
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Sounds bad to me - £80 a corner is the price I pay for mine and mine are 205/50/16 which is a more expensive size. I would be looking to pay about £60 a corner for F1's in 205/55/16.
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Sounds bad to me - £80 a corner is the price I pay for mine and mine are 205/50/16 which is a more expensive size. I would be looking to pay about £60 a corner for F1's in 205/55/16.
I dont think you'd get them £20 cheaper. I got Dunlop SP Sport 9000's on my car in 205/50/16 size for £78 each; my Dad had the same tyres fitted on his in 205/55/16 size, and they were £72 each from the same supplier.
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Pirelli P7's are a fabulous grippy tyre.
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I think you'll find anything quiet and grippy after P6000's.
I prefer Michelin Pilot Primacy - they give good grip and feel both wet and dry, ride well, have great resistance to aquaplaning and they also last very well. They tend to be a bit more expensive from the big chains but if you have access to Costco I was paying just under £80 all in for 205/55/16 on my previous Mondeo.
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G/Y GSD3 is streets better than the P6000 & I suspect will give similar wear as well. I paid £ 140ish around Xmas for 2 x 205/55 X 16 for the Porker at RM tyres in Strood, I suspect Bracknell Tyre & exhaust would be similar.
Jim
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Have also been very pleased with Vredesteins. Found the Hi-Trac quieter than the Sport-Trac. Not the quietest tyre, but grip like a big pair of pliers. Pretty good longevity too, over 20k miles whilst frequently driving "with feeling".
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andymc
Vroom, vroom - mmm, doughnuts ...
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Yet another recommendation for the Goodyear F1 GSD3. I put a set of 225/50-16s on my Mitsubishi Legnum (Galant estate) VR-4 last year. Very quiet, fantastic grip, especially in the wet, reasonable wear. When new, the grooves are frighteningly deep. FWIW, here in New Zealand, I paid around NZ$250 each, which is around UKP100.
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A quick glance at the chart on Goodyeay.co.uk reveals that they do not believe the GSD3 is the best for our winter weather! It is listed in the sunny section of the chart, not the all weather or winter section!
It is also unidirectional so what do you do for a spare! If safety is your main concern I presume you want a spare the same size and not a sace saver or nearly full size one you have to treat like a space saver (e.g. Mondeo).
If security is most important you may want to look further - or do you want grip for performance?
My experience of the GSD3 is that they are OK but then I do not drive on the limit. When when she had a puncture we could not get a replacement that day (car had no spare - 2.0 206CC).
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Thanks Ian.
I am after grip for safety.
Spare is a space saver. It is the reports from the users that temp me. If they say they grip and are quieter than the P6000's thats good enough for me!
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